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I'm trying to find out the maiden name for my wife's great grandmother who's name was Rosetta, she was married to James Ball who was born in St Anns London 1860, he was an eminent London photographer.

her name was Rosetta.

????
dont know who married who

Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
Ball James Fulham 1a 467
Nash Rosa Fulham 1a 467
Nash Rose Fulham 1a 467
Sandell Afred John Fulham 1a 467
SANDELL Alfred John Fulham 1a 467
Stubbings Ada Fulham 1a 467

1911 for info
BALL, James Head Mrd M 51 1860 Photographer St Annes Lodn VIEW
BALL, Rosetta E Wife Mrd31 years F 59 1852 Camberwell VIEW
TONNESEN, Rosetta E Daughter Above The Marriage Spinster F 34 1877 Camberwell VIEW
BALL, Daisy G Daughter Spinster F 27 1884 Brixton VIEW
BALL, Robert H Son Bachlr M 23 1888 Draughtsman Brixton VIEW
BALL, Sydney A Son Bachlr M 16 1895 Clerk Balham VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 2289

Reference: RG14PN2289 RG78PN78A RD26 SD5 ED4 SN176

Registration District: Wandsworth

Sub District: Streatham

Enumeration District: 4

Parish: Wandsworth Borough

Address: 29 Dafforn Road Upper Tooting S W

County: London
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That 1890 marriage was James Ball & Ada Stubbings:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about James Ball Name: James Ball
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Spouse Name: Ada Stubbings
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1890
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Hammersmith
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: William Ball
Spouse Father Name: John Stubbings
Register Type: Parish Registers

He was a labourer.

What does "daughter above the marriage" mean on that 1911? Is she Rosetta's daughter from before their marriage?

EDIT: Have looked at the original and it seems to say "daughter of the above her marriage". I'm not convinced the surname is Tonnesson, the first letter looks more like "L".

it says daughter of above ?? marraige

her birth
Name: TONNESEN, Rosetta Edith

Registration district: [?] Camberwell

County: London

Year of registration: 1876

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]1D

Page no:[?]743

A previous thread with loads of info on (3 pages) http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1178411

On original looks like Daughter OF above marriage

Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
ACKRILL Rosetta Elizabeth Camberwell 1d 762 xxxxx
HANSON Kate Camberwell 1d 762
Paley Charles Edward S Camberwell 1d 762
Tonnesen Hanna Andreas Camberwell 1d 762 xxxxxxx
Tonnesen Hanns Andreas Camberwell 1d 762

1881
ACKRELL, Joseph Head Married M 58 1823 Printer (Compositor)
Worcester City, Worcestershire VIEW
ACKRELL, Rosetta Wife Married F 60 1821
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
TONNESON, Rosetta E Grand Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Camberwell, Surrey VIEW

Piece: 623

Folio: 45

Page: 21

Registration District: Lambeth

Civil Parish: Lambeth

Municipal Borough:

Address: 62, Kellett Rd, Lambeth

County: London, Surrey

1891
ACKRILL, Joseph Head Married M 68 1823 Printers Accountant
Worcester, Worcestershire VIEW
ACKRILL, Rosetta E Wife Married F 70 1821
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
BALL, Rosetta E Granddaughter Single F 14 1877 Scholar
Camberwell, Surrey VIEW

Piece: 413

Folio: 11

Page: 15

Registration District: Lambeth

Civil Parish: East Brixton

Municipal Borough:

Address: 33, Spenser Road, East Brixton

County: London

1901
ACKRILL, Joseph Head Married M 78 1823 Retired Compositor
Worcester City VIEW
ACKRILL, Rosetta Wife Married F 80 1821
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
TONNESERO, Rosetta Grand Daughter Single F 24 1877 Living On Own Means
Camberwell, London VIEW

Piece: 472

Folio: 143

Page: 37

Registration District: Wandsworth

Civil Parish: Streatham

Municipal Borough:

Address: 62, Childebert Road, Streatham

County: London
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1871
ACKRILL, Joseph Head M 48 1823 Worcestershire VIEW
ACKRILL, Rosetta Wife F 50 1821 Kent VIEW
ACKRILL, Rosetta E Daughter F 20 1851 Surrey VIEW
REED, Eliza Servant F 18 1853 Surrey VIEW

Piece: 722

Folio: 67

Page: 10

Registration District: Camberwell

Civil Parish: St Giles

Municipal Borough:

Address: Vicarage Road, St Giles

County: London, Surrey

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Rosetta Elizabeth Ackrill Name: Rosetta Elizabeth Ackrill
Spouse Name: Hans Andrews Tonnesen
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Feb 1873
Parish: Camberwell St Giles
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Joseph Ackrill
Spouse Father Name: Anders Tonnesen
Register Type: Parish Register

Mozart - all of this information about Rosetta's maiden name was found for you back in 2009 (link posted above), why are you asking again?

For future reference, if you use the "My Threads" link down the left hand side of these pages then you can quickly get back to all of your previous requests.

on 21/1/1876 Rosetta Eliz Tonnesen divorces Hans Andeas Tonnesen

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Last name: Tonnesen

Year range: 1858 - 1903

First name: Hans

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Last name Title First name Middle name Year Image
Tonnesen Hans 1876

From previous thread:

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Sep 2009 16:46
Rosetta was divorced from Hans. There are 2 files relating to the divorce at the National Archives. Go to "Search the Catalogue" on their website, put in the surname and use J77 as the reference to search. You can click on "Request this" to get a quote for copies.

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Sep 2009 16:57
Just found an article in the Times - they weren't actually divorced - apparently both cases were dismissed!!

mozart1 Report 23 Sep 2009 16:57
Thank you both.

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Sep 2009 16:58
Also in the Times (Jan 20 1897), a Rosetta E Tonnesen is listed as having passed a Musical Examination. If it's the same woman, she was still known by this name in 1897.

mozart1 Report 23 Sep 2009 17:00
Wonderful, Can't think who else it would be,
can you say what Musical Examination it was for?

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Sep 2009 17:04
It was Trinity College London in a Higher Examination. She is listed under Certificated Pianists.

Tenerife Sun Report 24 Sep 2009 00:53
From The London Gazette dated March 5th 1875
NOTICE is 'hereby given, that the Partnership hereto*
fore subsisting between us the undersigned, Hans
Andreas Tonnesen and Edwin Farley, carrying on business
at No. 24, Crutched Friars, in the city of London, as
General and Commission Merchants, under the style or firm
of Tonnesen, Farley, and Co., has this day been determined
.by mutual consent. All debts due to and from the firm will
be received and paid by the said Edwin Farley. The said
Hans Andreas Tonnesen will continue business on bis own
account.—Dated this 1st day of March, 1875. .
Edwin Farley.
H. A. Tonnesen.
Wendy

Thank you all very very much, yes I did receive some information in 2009 on this but unfortunately our pc had to be changed as it was not working and we were unable to get saved data out.

Very grateful to all

Brian

Brian - the actual thread is saved on Genes Reunited site not on your computer, that's how I managed to find it and post the link further up. Here it is again in case you missed it: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1178411

You can access it from any computer anywhere - I did!

I also posted above "For future reference, if you use the "My Threads" link down the left hand side of these pages then you can quickly get back to all of your previous requests." - give it a try, you'll see what I mean.
:-)