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hi all

if you have time please would you look for the following people on the 1911 census

samuel copson 1850 nottingham
annie 1850 doncaster
mary 1890 nottingham

thank you
lorraine

Just to check - is this your family in 1901?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Annie Copson Head Married Female 51 1850 Charwoman Bennington, Lincolnshire
Jane Copson Daughter Single Female 22 1879 Silk Weaver Doncaster, Yorkshire
George Copson Son Single Male 19 1882 Lace Threader Doncaster, Yorkshire
Emma Copson Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Silk Weaver Doncaster, Yorkshire
Samuel Copson Son Single Male 15 1886 Grocers Assistant Southwell, Nottinghamshire
Richard Copson Son Single Male 14 1887 Lace Threader Southwell, Nottinghamshire
Mary Copson Daughter Single Female 11 1890 Scholar Southwell, Nottinghamshire
Annie Copson Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Southwell, Nottinghamshire

First name(s) Annie
Last name Copson
Relationship Head
Marital condition Married
Gender Female
Age 51
Birth year 1850
Occupation Charwoman
Birth town Bennington
Birth county Lincolnshire
House number -
House name -
Street Westgate
Parish Southwell
Town Southwell
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough Newark
Registration district Southwell
Enumeration district 5
Series RG13
Piece number 3192
Folio number 60
Page 2

yes my family
but i think richard and jane are together in the 1911 census but dont know what happened to the others

Annie didn't make 1911
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ANNIE
Last name COPSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1850
Age 53
Death quarter 1
Death year 1903
District SOUTHWELL
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 251

As you say, looks like Richard and Jane together in 1911 with Annie now described as niece rather than sister. Age 2 in 1901 so perhaps not the child of Annie (Senior) then aged 51

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Age Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Birth year Birth place Occupation
Richard Copson 24 Head Single Male 1887 Southwell Notts Threader Lace
Jane Copson 31 Sister Single Female 1880 Doncaster Cotton Winder Lace
Annie Copson 12 Niece - Female 1899 Southwell Notts School


First name(s) Annie
Last name Copson
Age 12
Relationship to household head Niece
Gender Female
Birth year 1899
Birth place Southwell Notts
Occupation School
Address 5 Aston Terrace Hyson Green Nottingham
Parish Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Registration district Nottingham
Registration district number 430
Subdistrict Nottingham North West
Subdistrict number 4
Enumeration district 17
Piece number 20609
Schedule number 343
Census reference RG14
Census reference RG14PN20609 RG78PN1231 RD430 SD4 ED17 SN343

George, now married for 2 years, 2 children born, 2 living. Also with him is Mary (Polly)

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Age Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Birth year Birth place Occupation
George Copson 29 Head Married Male 1882 Yorks Doncaster Curtain Twisthand
Lizzie Copson 24 Wife Married Female 1887 Notts Hucknall
George Copson 2 Son - Male 1909 Notts Hyson Green
Harry Copson 0 Son - Male 1911 Notts Hyson Green
Polly Copson 21 Sister Single Female 1890 Notts Southwell Collar Machinst Laundry

First name(s) George
Last name Copson
Age 29
Relationship to household head Head
Marital condition Married
Gender Male
Birth year 1882
Birth place Yorks Doncaster
Occupation Curtain Twisthand
Address 5 Carlingford Terrace Brown Street Nottingham
Parish Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Registration district Nottingham
Registration district number 430
Subdistrict Nottingham North West
Subdistrict number 4
Enumeration district 16
Piece number 20608
Schedule number 150
Census reference RG14
Census reference RG14PN20608 RG78PN1231 RD430 SD4 ED16 SN150

Looks like Samuel (Junior) joined the Army

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First name(s) Samuel
Last name Copson
Age 23
Relationship to household head -
Marital condition Single
Gender Male
Birth year 1888
Birth place Nottingham Southwell
Occupation Soldier
Address Roberts Heights Pretoria Transvaal South Africa
Parish -
County Overseas Military
Country Ships And Overseas Establishments
Registration district number 641
Subdistrict number 2
Enumeration district 7
Piece number 34977
Schedule number 9999
Census reference RG14
Census reference RG14PN34977 RD641 SD2 ED7 SN9999

Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 Transcription

First name(s) SAMUEL
Last name COPSON
Service number 8856
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment Royal Scots Fusiliers
Battalion 1st Battalion.
Birth place SOUTHWELL, NOTTS
Residence -
Enlistment place NOTTINGHAM
Death year 1917
Death day 3
Death month 5
Cause of death Killed in action
Death place France & Flanders
Theatre of war Western European Theatre
Supplementary Notes -
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from Great Britain

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First name(s) SAMUEL
Last name COPSON
Birth year 1888
Birth parish ST MARYS
Birth town SOUTHWELL
Birth county NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1488
Rank -
Regiment -
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1906
Attestation day 3
Attestation month 7
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 9
Attestation Corps 4TH SHERWOOD FORESTERS
Attestation service number 1488
Series militia service records 1806-1915
Box 790
Box record number 428
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

Attested 1906 - NOK given as

1. Father Samuel Address unknown <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

2 + 3. Brothers Goerge and Richard 8 Galloways Yard, Milton Street, Nottingham

Initially Attested for Militia 3/7/1906 to 4th Sherwood Foresters, living at 8 Galloways Yard in Parish of Holy Trinity, Nottingham aged 19 years and 9 months and a Lace Hand.
5ft 3 3/4 inches tall, 104 lbs, Chest 34 inches with 3 in expansion. FResh complexion, grey eyes, brown hair, large scar left armpit, C of E.
Transferred to Royal Scots Fusiliers ? 27.8.06

UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947 about Samuel Copson
Name: Samuel Copson
Death Date: 3 May 1917
Cemetery: The Arras Memorial at Faubourg-D´Amiens Cemetery, Arras
Burial Country: France
Service number: 8856
Region or Memorial: France

Web: International, Find A Grave Index about Private Samuel S Copson
Name: Private Samuel S Copson
Death Date: 3 May 1917
Burial Place: Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...


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Birth: unknown
Death: May 3, 1917
Inscription:
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Note: 8856
Burial:
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Record added: Feb 11, 2014
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Not seeing any military records post attestation and transfer to Royal Scots. There is just the Medal CArd annotated with date of entry into theatre of war 14.8.1914. Awarded the 1914 Star and the Victory and British Medals. Remarks KIA (Killed in Action)

Child from earlier census shows as Elizbith on 1881 transcript but looking at other info could well be Zibiah b 1876 Nottingham
1881 - age 5 at Black Horse Yard, Doncaster and
1891 - age 15 (Beziah) at West Gate, Southwell
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?? birth registered as Zibiah 1876 Nottingham
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marr Southwell, Notts 1897 - 7b 707 Edward George Wilson. Other male Frank Spooner, female is Mary Maria Kemp - on 1901 census Southwell RD
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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ZIBIAH
Last name WILSON
Birth year 1876
Age 25
Death quarter 1
Death year 1901
District NOTTINGHAM County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B Page 211
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Edward shows as Widower and Visitor on 1901 and remarried by 1911 but looks as though the daughters are Zibiah's children

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Age Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward George Wilson 35 Head Married Male 1876 Notts Newark Confectioner Pastry Cook
Alice Wilson 40 Wife Married Female 1871 Notts Newark
Constance Copson Wilson 12 Daughter Single Female 1899 Lincoln Grimsby School
Drois Mable Wilson 11 Daughter Single Female 1900 Lincoln Grimsby School
Louie Annie Wilson 10 Daughter Single Female 1901 Notts Newark School <<<< Dec Qtr 1900
Arthur William Wilson 5 Son Single Male 1906 York Doncaster School

Marriage year 1902
Years married 9
Address 2 Newnham Road Newark
Parish Newark upon Trent
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Registration district Newark
Registration district number 432
Subdistrict Newark
Subdistrict number 3
Enumeration district 10
Piece number 20741
Schedule number 194
Census reference RG14
Census reference RG14PN20741 RG78PN1237 RD432 SD3 ED10 SN194

Last but not least ???
Not finding Emma on 1911 census, nor a marriage or death. This record is dated after the 1911 England and Canada census were taken though.

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription

First name(s) E
Last name COPSON
Title MISS
Gender Female
Age ADULT
Marital status S
Occupation COOK
Departure year 1911
Departure day 8
Departure month 9
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port MONTREAL
Destination MONTREAL
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name TEUTONIC
Ship official number 96334
Ship master's first name R W
Ship master's last name JAMES
Shipping line WHITE STAR DOMINION
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 9989
Ship registered tonnage 4236
Number of passengers 931

wow thank you very very much

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