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Vena
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5 Dec 2014 20:05 |
I am looking for military records on William Martin born 1888 in clay cross chesterfield his parents were Samuel and Ellen he was in the military and I've been told he was injured in the Somme, but we have no way of knowing for sure, I have searched all military records can find nothing anyone help please
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SylviaInCanada
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5 Dec 2014 20:40 |
where have you looked??
just to save us duplicating .............
have you looked on
ancestry fmp war departmet archives online
or where?
You have to be aware that less than 30% of the records of WW1 servicemen survived WW2 ........... and the records that have survived are often damaged and / or incomplete
so you really are very lucky if you manage to find anything!
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greyghost
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5 Dec 2014 22:10 |
Is this your William1891? His mother is listed as single here as on image England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cross Street, Claylane or Claycross, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ellen Martin Head Single Female 39 1852 - Ripley, Derbyshire, England John Martin Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Woodthorpe, Derbyshire, England Florry Martin Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England Willie Martin Son - Male 3 1888 - Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England John A Martin Brother Married Male 28 1863 Pipe Moulder Greenwich, Kent, England Abraham Ragnor Stepfather Widower Male 64 1827 Pipe Moulder Sandiacre, Nottinghamshire, England Joseph Wragg Lodger Married Male 54 1837 Coal Miner Tansley, Derbyshire, England
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2014 22:24 |
Name: William Martin Event Type: Christening Event Date: 20 Apr 1888 Event Place: Clay Cross, Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England Gender: Male Mother's Name: Ellen Martin GS Film number: 2080807 , Digital Folder Number: 004452600 , Image Number: 00034
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2014 22:26 |
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Name: William Martin Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1967 Registration District: Chesterfield County: Derbyshire Event Place: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Age (available after 1866): 79 Birth Year (Estimated): 1888 Volume: 3A Page: 159 Line Number: 43
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Rambling
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5 Dec 2014 22:26 |
1901 England Census about Willie Martin Name: Willie Martin Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Brother Son (Nephew) ** actually John's brother Gender: Male Birth Place: Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Claycross Ecclesiastical parish: Claycross St Bartholomew Town: Claycross County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Ashover ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3243 Folio: 97 Page Number: 5 Household schedule number: 31 Household Members: Name Age John Martin 22 Ellen Martin 41 Florrie Martin 15 Willie Martin 13 <<<<<<<<< Ethel Martin 8 Abraham Rayner 73 Samuel Martin 45 Single and listed as a boarder.
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2014 22:27 |
Name: William Martin Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Gender: Male Age: 23 Birthplace: Clay Cross, Derbyshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Chesterfield Sub-District: Ashover Parish: Clay Lane County: Derbyshire
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2014 22:30 |
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Name: William Martin Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1911 Registration District: Chesterfield County: Derbyshire Event Place: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Volume: 7B Page: 1606 Line Number: 140 William Martin probably married one of the following people Name: Kathleen M Bradshaw Name: Emily A Dann
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2014 22:30 |
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Name: William Martin Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1912 Registration District: Chesterfield County: Derbyshire Event Place: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Lilley Volume: 7B Page: 1618 Line Number: 93 William Martin probably married one of the following people Name: Maud Lilley
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Rambling
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5 Dec 2014 22:31 |
1911 England Census about William Martin Name: William Martin Age in 1911: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Relative (Other Relative) Gender: Male Birth Place: Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Clays Lane County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 25 Cross St Clay Cross Marital Status: Single Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer Registration district: Chesterfield Registration District Number: 438 Sub-registration district: Ashover ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 21064 Household Members: Name Age James Brough 31 Florie Brough 27 John B Martin 32 William Martin 23 Ethel Martin 18 James Brough 2 Ellen Brough 4
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5 Dec 2014 22:32 |
Do you know who he married?
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British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about William Martin Name: William Martin Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1885 Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1911 Marriage Place: Chesterfield Age: 29 Document Year: 1914 Residence Place: 28 Prospect St Stomegralds, Cheslerfield Derby Regimental Number: 21328 Regiment Name: Notts and Derby (Sherwood Foresters) Regiment Form Title: Short Service Attestation Number of Images: 4 Other Records: Search for 'William Martin' in other WWI collections Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier William Martin Self (Head) Emily Ann Martin Spouse Florence Eva Martin Child James Martin Child Mary Ann Martin Child Ellen Martin Child
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AnnCardiff
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5 Dec 2014 22:36 |
Name: James Martin Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1911 Registration District: Chesterfield County: Derbyshire Event Place: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Dann Volume: 7B Page: 1382 Line Number: 49
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greyghost
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5 Dec 2014 22:47 |
There is this Army record, age is out a little but wife's name Emily Ann (As per poss marriage posted earlier.) They married 30.12.1911 in Chesterfield. Florence Eva shows as step daughter b Tamworth 1907 and the other children as theirs 1911, 1913 and 1914 all b Chesterfield William served 64 days and was then discharged - not likely to become an efficient soldier
NAME: William Martin GENDER: Male BIRTH DATE: abt 1885 MARRIAGE DATE: 30 Dec 1911 MARRIAGE PLACE: Chesterfield AGE: 29 DOCUMENT YEAR: 1914 RESIDENCE PLACE: 28 Prospect St Stomegralds, Cheslerfield Derby REGIMENTAL NUMBER: 21328 REGIMENT NAME: Notts and Derby (Sherwood Foresters) Regiment FORM TITLE: Short Service Attestation NUMBER OF IMAGES: 4 OTHER RECORDS: Search for 'William Martin' in other WWI collections FAMILY MEMBERS: FAMILY MEMBERS: NAME RELATION TO SOLDIER William Martin Self (Head) Emily Ann Martin Spouse Florence Eva Martin Child James Martin Child Mary Ann Martin Child Ellen Martin Child
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Vena
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5 Dec 2014 23:32 |
thankyou everyone, im so confused thought Samuel was Williams father, but here doesthis Abraham fit in???
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Dec 2014 00:07 |
I beg your pardon?????
nowhere does it say that Abraham was William's father
In fact .......... the 1891 Census posted by greyghost says that William's mother was SINGLE
She is Head of the household, and Abraham Ragnor (or Rayner in 1901) is HER Stepfather, living with her.
as posted earlier by greyghost ...................
Is this your William1891? His mother is listed as single here as on image England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cross Street, Claylane or Claycross, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellen Martin Head Single Female 39 1852 - Ripley, Derbyshire, England John Martin Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Woodthorpe, Derbyshire, England Florry Martin Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England Willie Martin Son - Male 3 1888 - Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England John A Martin Brother Married Male 28 1863 Pipe Moulder Greenwich, Kent, England Abraham Ragnor Stepfather Widower Male 64 1827 Pipe Moulder Sandiacre, Nottinghamshire, England Joseph Wragg Lodger Married Male 54 1837 Coal Miner Tansley, Derbyshire, England
so I guess you could say he was the children's Step grandfather
where did you get the information that Samuel was the father of William??
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Dec 2014 00:24 |
Here is Ellen, with 2 children, in 1881, and an Ann Raynor living with her
Name: Ellen Martin Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ripley, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Claylane County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Cross St
Occupation: Dress Maker Registration district: Chesterfield Sub registration district: Ashover ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 3428 Folio: 50 Page Number: 16
Ellen Martin 28 Ann Raynor 54 b.ca 1827, Nottinghamshire, Widower, Lodger, Seamstress Ellen Martin 3 John B. Martin 1
Address:- Cross Street
Interesting that Ann describes herself as Widower on this Census, and Abraham says he is a Widower in 1891 :-S :-S
and here is John's baptism ..............
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about John Ben Martin
Name: John Ben Martin Gender: Male Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1879 Baptism Place: Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England Mother: Ellen Martin FHL Film Number: 2080806 Reference ID: item 7 p 145
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