Genealogy Chat

I am researching the family of John Julian and Mary Ann Lanyon. John was born about 1811, I believe in the Truro area and Mary ann Lanyon was born about 1810 in the same area . They were married in 1831 at St Martin in Meneage?, Truro, Cornwall.
They had 5 children namely: John Thomas Searle (b 1835), Edward (b 1837, Mary ann (b 1838), Susan Jane (b 1843) and Emily (b 1846). The family migrated to Australia in 1848.

I have been unable to find the family in the 1841 census or any birth information on John or his children.
.I would be most grateful if anyone could help with any info as to the parents of John and Mary Ann or any information as to where the families may have lived in Cornwall as my daughter is travelling to Cornwall in April to do some research.

Many thanks

Carol Whittaker

from familysearch ................

on the IGI Index


Mary Ann Lanyon

International Genealogical Index (IGI)

marriage: 1 October 1831 St.Martins,Truro,Cornwall,England


spouse: John Julian

Thank you so much for your prompt response.

Marriage image here
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11819-85509-60?cc=1769414&wc=M6NJ-H6D:138123201,141878801,138136501

Other St Martin in Meneage images:
https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecapi%2Fsord%2Fwaypoint%2FM6NX-368%3A138123201%3Fcc%3D1769414

Tab through the parishes, then look through the images for baptisms etc.

Cornwall OPC only appears to have baptisms for Mary Ann

http://goo.gl/OxTsOt

and Susan Jane

http://goo.gl/cnfVIC

From freebmd


Births Dec 1842 (>99%)
SEARLE Susan Jane Helston 9 125

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Meneage Street, Wendron, Helston, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John Searle Male 30 1811 Cornwall, England Transcription Occupation SAWYER
Mary Searle Female 30 1811 Cornwall, England Transcription
John Searle Male 9 1832 Cornwall, England Transcription
Edward Searle Male 6 1835 Cornwall, England Transcription
Mary Searle Female 3 1838 Cornwall, England

A big thank you KenSe, MarieCeleste and Jacqueline for all this information.

Lots of browsing for me over the next few days. Greatly appreciated.


Carol

just a bit of a puzzle ????

how did the name change from Julian to Searle as cant see the connection :-(

I did see a note on one Public Family Tree that Susan Jane died "on board ship" 1849

Hi Shirley,
I think Jacqueline saw Searle as a surname ie John Thomas Searle Julian.

You're absolutely correct, Carol.....and I can't think of a plausible excuse!

Kicking myself now..............

Hi Jacqueline,

Still may come in handy as I don't know how the Searle comes into John's christian names. Sometimes good to look outside the box.

There's no image related to this to verify if Susan Jane did die on ship:

South Australia, passenger lists 1847-1886
First name(s) Susan J
Last name Julian
Age 6
Birth year 1843
Ship name Trafalgar
Departure year 1848
Departure date 10 Oct 1848
Departure port Plymouth
Arrival year 1849
Arrival date 17 Jan 1849
Arrival port Adelaide
State South Australia
Country Australia

Would she be recorded as an arrival if she was deceased?

I wonder if these people were related :-S

Name: John Julian
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1766
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Mawgen in Meneage
Hundred: Kerrier
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Helston
Sub-registration district: Helston
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 138
Book: 7
Folio: 29
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Julian 75
Margery Julian 55

(from Ancestry)

There are a few people called John Julian in the 1841 census living in Cornwall; but none of the right age or with the right wife and kids. :-S

Here is Susan's death. She died of hydrocephalus.


Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
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First name(s) Susan J
Last name Julien
Gender Female
Birth year 1842
Birth date 1842
Death year 1848
Death date 1848
Age 6
Vessel name Trafalgar
Departure port -
Departure date 16 Oct 1848
Arrival date 17 Jan 1849
Series CO 386
Box 0170
Page 11

Thank you Graham. This info may somehow fit into the puzzle. Also thank you MarieCeleste and Alviegal for your info on Susan Jane. How very sad.

Now somehow I just have to get to the next generation. Oh what fun!!

Thank you everyone.

If you search the baptisma in the Cornish OPC database
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/baptisms/
there is a John Roberts Julian baptised in Manaccan (a Meneage parish) in 1811.
His mother being Susanna Julian, who was probably the one baptised Susanna Roberts Julian Dotson at St Martin in Meneage in 1789.

Thanks KenSE.