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Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	John	Report	9 Apr 2015 19:06
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Can anyone help with locating listings for childrens homes in London. I have tried the workhouse records, but believe my relative was in a home from age 3 (1921-22) until teenage years. I have also tried Barnados but the search came back negative. Thank you
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 18:12
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Who did he give as Father on the marriage certificate to Margaret that you have and what was Father's occupation. It might be worthwhile getting one of his previous marriage certificates to see what the information was on that re his age and Father's details. Do you not have the one to Violet, if she was your Grandmother?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 17:55
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Looks like there was another child born before your Grandad - James L(Louis?) England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription First name(s) JAMES L Last name HARMAN Birth year 1916 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name BOLTON District WANDSWORTH County London Country England Volume 1D Page 1018 Died Q2 1916 Wandsworth 1D 538
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	John	Report	23 Mar 2015 17:36
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	This is beginning to make sense now. Wow I can't thank you enough and so quickly finding this information. I believe that if he was actually born in Germany, then it would seem he was brought to england as an infant. Could this be the reason that birth year is different? The Bolton find makes sense of it all now and they seemed to stay in the Battersea area of London. It looks like my grandfather was also married 3 times. Thank you again. :-D :-D
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 17:00
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	And probably her on the 1891 census - a well travelled family 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Stockwood Street, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Bolton Head Married Male 43 1848 Bricklayers Labourer Oxfordshire, England Jane Bolton Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Kent, England Rachel Bolton Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Laundry Maid Freemantle, Hampshire, England Frederick Bolton Son - Male 15 1876 Cats Meat Vendor Middlesex, England Charles Bolton Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Southampton, Hampshire, England Louisa Bolton Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Battersea, Middlesex, England Violet Bolton Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Battersea, Middlesex, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 16:57
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	If this is Violet's death England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription First name(s) VIOLET M Last name HARMAN Gender Female Birth year 1888 Age 33 Death quarter 2 Death year 1921 District WANDSWORTH County London Volume 1D Page 463 --------------------------------------------- then this is probably her birth England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription First name(s) VIOLET MAY Last name BOLTON Birth year 1888 Birth quarter 3 District WANDSWORTH County London Country England Volume 1D Page 597
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 16:45
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Marriage 1915 - James Louis Harman to Violet M Clarke Are you sure that VIOLET's maiden name was Clarke. If she had been married before, then Clarke would not be her maiden name. ?? First name(s) ERNEST CHARLES Last name CLARKE Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1909 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ ERNEST CHARLES CLARKE married one of these people VIOLET MAY BOLTON, LOUISA OXFORD Spouse's last name - District WANDSWORTH District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Page 852
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 16:43
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Was there a 3rd marriage (or 2nd as the case may be) ??? England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription First name(s) JAMES L Last name HARMAN Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1922 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JAMES L HARMAN married ANNIE A HUSSELBY Spouse's last name HUSSELBY District WANDSWORTH District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Page 1370
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	John	Report	23 Mar 2015 13:03
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Marriage certificate from 1926 to Margaret Warner says fathers from Bonn, Germany. This was given by my cousin so I am not 100% sure, although we were always told that grandfather was with the Kings royal rifles as he was brought back to england as an infant. The problem I have had is my fathers birth certificate says mothers maiden name is Bolton and I cannot find any marriage with James Louis Harman and Bolton. He married at least twice firstly to Vera Clarke in 1915 and again in 1926 to Margaret Warner, but my father James Oswald Harman was born in 1918 and died in 2011. We just cannot confidently confirm the family. May I just say "Thank you for all this information", we did have some but not all details. I am wondering if he (as you suggested) was born abroad but registered in England. My father did live in Battersea for a short while, but other than that I have nothing. Thank you again Greyghost the info is very helpful. John
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 12:09
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	I will leave all this posted in case it is your family, but if your James Louis Harman was born in Germany, then it can't be the same one, unless the family nipped over there, he was born and they came back to UK to register the birth. I was hoping to find an Army link for the Father to possibly explain an overseas birth but I think the records found can definitely rule this out. Can you give all the details from the marriage certificate please If it isn't his, could you tell us who he married, where and when and also his date of death, age at death and where he died
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 11:55
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	So the 2 elder children who are not with the widowed Louisa in 1901 are Located Penge (Kent), Croydon, Surrey in 1901 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription First name(s) Albert Last name Harman Relationship Pauper Inmate Marital status - Gender Male Age 11 Birth year 1890 Occupation Scholar Birth town Wandsworth Birth town as transcribed WANDSWORTH Birth county Surrey Birth place England William aged 10 also there
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 11:50
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Manor Road, West Ham, Essex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Albert Harman Head Married Male 28 1863 Candle Maker Lambeth, Surrey, England Louisa Harman Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Battersea, Surrey, England Albert J Harman Son - Male 1 1890 - Battersea, Surrey, England William Harman Son - Male 0 1891 - Stratford, Essex, England ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Possible death of Albert Harman England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 First name(s) ALBERT Last name HARMAN Gender Male Birth year 1862 Age 33 Death quarter 2 Death year 1895 District WANDSWORTH County London Volume 1D Page 326
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 11:29
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Louisa's first marriage England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription First name(s) LOUISA ESTHER Last name WALKLEY Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1888 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ LOUISA ESTHER WALKLEY married one of these people WILLIAM NASMAN STOKES, ALBERT LEWIS HARMAN Spouse's last name - District WANDSWORTH District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Page 1228 4th person is a Mary A Shaw and a William and Mary A Stokes are in Battersea, Wandsworth 1891 ------------------------------------------------------------- and her second England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription First name(s) LOUISA HESTER Last name HARMAN Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1907 MarriageFinder™ LOUISA HESTER HARMAN married one of these people THOMAS RANDOLPH WHITE, RICHARD GEORGE SARGENT
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 11:22
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	This is the birth that would go with that census England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription First name(s) JAMES LOUIS Last name HARMAN Birth year 1892 Birth quarter 3 District WANDSWORTH County London Country England Volume 1D Page 631
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 11:21
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	1901 for the same family 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 74, Grant Road, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Emily Walkley Head Widow Female 61 1840 None Westminster, Middlesex, England Clara Walkley Daughter Single Female 20 1881 - Battersea, Middlesex, England Louisa Harman Daughter Widow Female 33 1868 Domestic Servant Battersea, Middlesex, England James Harman Grand Son - Male 8 1893 - Battersea, Middlesex, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Mar 2015 11:13
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Is this census where you have found ? your James - birth year more likely to be 1892 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 96 Speke Road Battersea, Battersea, London, England First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Louise Sargent Head Widow Female 43 1868 Battersea Charwoman James Louis Harman Son Single Male 18 1893 Battersea Shop Assistant ----------------------------------------------------------------------- And is this who you think is James - no middle name given Name: James Harman Regiment or Corps: King's Royal Rifle Corps, Labour Corps Regimental Number: 5658, 346308 The address is 21 Alma St, Oxford Road, Reading, Berks in 1922 when he applied for the 1914 Star Medal
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	John	Report	23 Mar 2015 10:19
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	My G.Fathers name was James Louis Harman, according to a marriage certificate he was born in Bonn, Germany in 1891. That is all the info I have, I have found the same name in London but birth date is 1893 although name is same, I think that this may not be my relative. I have some army documents from WW1 which are definately my grandfathers as he was with Kings Royal Rifles during WW1. Any help would be greatly appreciated. John
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 73,136 Send Message	AnnCardiff	Report	21 Mar 2015 19:55
	if you care to give us some details, one of us may be able to find something for you Ann x
	Researching: Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	John	Report	21 Mar 2015 16:55
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Thank you for the info, have tried familysearch and nothing comes up there. My sister is a member of ancestry so she will look on that site.
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 19,542 Send Message	Cynthia	Report	21 Mar 2015 13:33
	Welcome to the Community boards John. (I'll let John know how to find this reply) :-)
	Researching: ADVICE: Click on 'My Threads' over on the left to find your replies. Please respond to your replies by typing in the Add Reply box at the bottom of the page. Enjoy!

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