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He left her or went abroad on business and died abroad maybe ???

Online travel info doesn't start till 1890

Thanks folks for all your efforts BUT the mystery remains - there is no record of Ebenezer Tyrer after 1881 census............
Any theories?
David

SYLVIAINCANADA
Thanks for your point about gathering info for the benefit of others; I understand.
Maria's Informant on death cert (surprisingly?) was her brother David Meese, NOT her son Howard Tyrer. Both of these were living quite a distance from Cardiff, where Maria died.
I can't find a notice of her death in newspapers. She didn't make a will.
David

I Googled his name (always a good thing to try :-) ) ...........................

do you think this has any connection with him???

It is an extract from the Law Times of a legal case in 1868 involving the Wiltshire iron Company

The Law Times Reports of Cases Decided in the House of ...
https://books.google.ca/books?id=vjRHAQAAMAAJ
1868 - ?Law reports, digests, etc

There was also evidence by Mr. Ebenezer Tyrer, the manager of the company proving that frequently, although such invoices had been sent to purchasers, the



you'd have to go to that link, and read the case

BTW .................


don't forget that you might have a lot, if not all, of the details posted by helpers ............... you have this family in your head.

We don't, and posting the earlier information helps us really get to know what we are looking for.

Have you got Maria's death certificate to see who was the informant??

Have you contacted Cemeteries near?...

Might be worth a look on below, or address on Death Cert. sometimes brings up bits!)

http://newspapers.library.wales/

Chris :)

(failing that perhaps Ann above might have an idea!)

CHRIS HO
Yes that's Maria. I am trying to find her headstone to see if it mentions Ebenezer
David

(perhaps her below, quite a bit relating to Howard M, in Newspapers, also google, with his fight against Vice)

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
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TYRER Maria 71 Cardiff 11a 250

Chris :)

Maria is listed as a widow here, living on own means


1891
Name:Maria Tyler

Age:54

Estimated birth year:abt 1837

Relation:Head

Gender:Female

Where born:Brierly Hill, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish:Roath

Ecclesiastical parish:Roath

County/Island:Glamorgan

Country:Wales

Registration district:Cardiff

Sub registration district:Cardiff

ED, institution, or vessel:7
Piece:4387
Folio:34
Page Number:62

Household Members:

Maria Tyler 54
Howard M Tyler 24

MALYON - the Tyler man is definitely wrong I'm afraid (1911 census)

CHRIS HO: I didn't have the Noah Meese info, thanks.
David

1881 (Find My Past) (Reference)
Rebecca Kingsbury Head Single Female 45 1836 Lodging Ho Keeper Dorset, England
Elizabeth Corell Boarder Widow Female 40 1841 Tailoress Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England
Ebenezer Tyver Boarder Married Male 51 1830 Accountant Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Maria Tyver Boarder Married Female 44 1837 - Staffordshire, England
Howard Tyver Boarder Single Male 14 1867 Scholar Seend, Wiltshire, England
Jane Meese Boarder Single Female 41 1840 - Scotland
Harold Couzens Boarder Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Westbury, Wiltshire, England
House name Clifton Villa
Street Hardwick Street
Parish Melcombe Regis
County Dorset
Registration district Weymouth
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2106
Folio 18
Page 27

Chris :)

23 August 1865 - Glasgow Herald - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Marriage
At Trinity Wesleyan Chapel, Wolverhampton, on the 17th instant, by the Rev. W. D. Tyack, Mr. Ebenezer Tyrer, of Seend, Wiltshire, to Maria, eldest daughter of Mr. Noah Meese, late of Glasgow.


(below items if relating)

12 November 1852 - Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal - Derby, Derbyshire

Rugeley
On Sunday, the 24th ult. - Noah Meese was brought in custody, charged with deserting his wife and family, whereby they became chargeable to the parish of Rugeley. Committed for one month.


30 December 1850 - Glasgow Herald - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Deaths
At 10, Barony Place, on the 28th instant, after a short illness, Mrs. Noah Meese.

But he appears on all the other census records in Chelmsford.

Rose

still could be the death i posted in Chelmsford 1911 same age

Thank you all - but I have those details; I am looking for him AFTER 1881. I can't find death registration, or burial, or entries in later census records..............
David

Ebenezer Tyrer

England and Wales Census, 1861

Name Ebenezer Tyrer
County Staffordshire
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Sub-District 4 Wolverhampton Western
Parish Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical Parish St Pauls
Registration District Wolverhampton
Age 31
Gender Male
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birthplace Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Schedule Type Household

Ebenezer Tyrer

England and Wales Census, 1851

Name Ebenezer Tyrer
Age 21
Gender M
Birthplace W Hampton, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household Brother
Schedule Type Household

this could be his death is the same age born 1830 spelt different

Deaths Jun 1911 (>99%)
Tyler Ebenezer 81 Chelmsford 4a 279

some times women said they were widowed in census if husband left them

Ebenezer Tyrer

England and Wales Marriage Registration Index

Name Ebenezer Tyrer
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1865
Registration District Wolverhampton
County Staffordshire
Event Place Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6B
Page 693
Line Number 28

Ebenezer Tyrer probably married one of the following people
Name Maria Meese

In case you don't have it

17 August 1865
Surname TYRER
Name Ebenezer
Aged 36
bachelor
Clerk in iron works
Abode Melksham
Father's name Richard Tyrer, Japanner
Female forename Maria
Female surname MEESE
Aged 29
Spinster
Abode Dudley Road
Father's name Noah MEESE, Iron master, retired.

Married by licence.