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Alice Henrietta Boulton mmmmm been looking for her birth for quite some time now.
In the 1901 census it says she is born burton on trent Staffordshire and living with grandparents, I have her in all census but cannot find her birth , I have 2 birth certificates I have ordered and neither of them are her ! Its getting a bit expensive.
I have her marriage and death certificates and this tells me her father is John Boulton and as she is living with her mother and grandparents in 1901 I'm thinking her mothers name is wheildon I know her birthday is 29 june 1900 from her daughter my mum in law but I cannot get the right certificate PLEASE HELP !

Not seeing the 1901 census. Who were her grandparents and where were they living please?

William Corden Henrietta Corden ( second marriage )
Basford Nottinghamshire
Annie

Just for ref

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mapperley, Albert Street West Dale Lane, Gedling, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Corden Head Married Male 41 1860 Ordinary Agricultural Labourer Rocester, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Henrietta Corden Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Worcestershire, England Transcription
Alice Bolton Step Daughter Married Female 20 1881 - Stubwood, Staffordshire, England Transcription
William Wheilden Step Son Single Male 14 1887 Farm Lad Stubwood, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Henrietta Wheilden Step Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Prestwood, Staffordshire, England
Edith Wheilden Step Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Stubwood, Staffordshire, England
Frederick Wheilden Step Son Single Male 8 1893 - Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Alice H Bolton Grand Child - Female 1 1900 - Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, >>>>>

Marriages Dec 1895

Corden William ....... Ashborne 7b 1232
Whieldon Henrietta....... Ashborne 7b 1232

Is this the parents marriage?

Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
Boulton John Stone 6b 53
Wheildon Alice Stone. 6b. 53

From StaffsBMDs

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BOULTON John WHEILDON Alice Aston, St Saviour Newcastle-Under-Lyme CE22/01/169

Was Alice Henrietta perhaps born earlier than June 1900, ??
as she would not yet be 1 year old by census 1901, which was 31 March 1901,

That's what I thought its definitely 29 June according to my mum in law and she died in 1965 aged 65 according to her death certificate and on her marriage certificate in 1925 it says she is 25 . Her parents where married in 1899 and I wondered if she was born before that. Also I haven't got John Boulton her father in 1901
Annie

What's her name at the time of her death. And where did she die?

Is this her 1911?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Lark Lane Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Boulton Head Married Male Generall Labourer 37 1874 Longton Staffs Transcription
Alice Boulton Wife Married Female House Work 29 1882 Chenston Staffs Transcription
Alice Boulton Daughter - Female School 12 1899 Boston Staffs Transcription
Annie Boulton Daughter - Female School 8 1903 Saxilby Lincs Transcription
Thomas Boulton Son - Male School 5 1906 Saxilby Lincs Transcription
Francis May Boulton Daughter - Female Baby 0 1911 Saxilby Lincs Transcription
James Morris Boarder Single Male B Smiths Striker 19 1892 Uttoxeter Staffs

Marriage?

Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
Boulton Alice H Young Lincoln 7a 1389
Young William Boulton Lincoln 7a 1389

Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
Boulton Alice H Young Lincoln 7a 1389

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Alice Young on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Young Household (5 People) 45B Sincil Street , Lincoln C.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
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Alice Young 29 Jun 1899 Female Landworker Married 48 1
Thomas A Gavins 12 Apr 1902 Male Labourer (Bardney Sugar Factor Single 48 2
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Yes these are all correct but I cannot find birth . Really strange will have to keep ordering certificates I think . Thank you for all your help
Annie x

Marriage was in May so she should have been born Boulton:

Name: John Boulton

Spouse's Name: Alice Whieldon

Event Date: 01 May 1899
Event Place: Aston, Stafford, England
Father's Name: William Boulton
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Whieldon
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04962-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1278803
Reference ID:


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County Staffordshire
Place Shenstone
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 18 Apr 1882
Person forename Alice
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Father surname WHEELDON
Father occupation Farm Labourer
Mother forename Henrietta

(if relating, from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1882

WHEILDON Alice Lichfield (held at Newcastle RO) Newcastle-Under-Lyme (Mother Maiden Name) HUDSON L/50/183


Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876

WHEILDON Thomas HUDSON Henrietta Burton-upon-Trent Register Office (B1RO) Newcastle-Under-Lyme

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
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Wheildon Alice Lichfield 6b 476


Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
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HUDSON Henrietta Burton 6b 481
Wheildon Thomas Burton 6b 481


1891 (Find My Past)
Thomas Wheildon Head Married Male 48 1843 Agricultural Labourer Wootton, Staffordshire, England
Henrietta Wheildon Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Wheildon Son Single Male 18 1873 Bricklayers Labourer Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Alice Wheildon Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Stubwood, Staffordshire, England
Wm Jas Wheildon Son - Male 4 1887 - Stubwood, Staffordshire, England
Florence Wheildon Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Stubwood, Staffordshire, England
House name Knoll Cottage
Street Northwood
Town Prestwood
Parish Prestwood
County Derbyshire
Registration district Ashbourne
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2752
Folio 87
Page 16


1881 (Find My Past)
Thomas Wheildon Head Married Male 38 1843 Ag Lab -
Henrietta Wheildon Wife Married Female 28 1853 - -
Mary Ann Wheildon Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar -
Maria Wheildon Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar -
Thomas Wheildon Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Street Shenstone Village
Parish Shenstone
County Staffordshire
Registration district Lichfield
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2775
Folio 122
Page 19


(if relating to 1911)

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
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BOULTON Frances M Lincoln 7a 490


Deaths Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Boulton Frances M 1 Glanford B. 7a 747


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Roxby cum Risby
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 726
Burial date 09 Oct 1911
Person age 14m
Burial person forename Frances May
Burial person surname BOULTON
Burial person abode Roxby

Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Boulton Thomas William Lincoln 7a 507

(if above is Son 1911, then below relates)

Chris :)


02 October 1944 - Lincolnshire Echo - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

LINCOLN WEDDINGS
St. Peter-at-Gowt, Lincoln. - Mr. John Boulton, youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. Boulton. Goldsmith-walk. Lincoln, to Miss Gwendolene May Burton, youngest daughter of Mrs. and the late Mr. G. Burton, Portland-street, Lincoln. Mr. Thomas W. Boulton, brother of the bridegroom, was best man.


Marriages Sep 1944 (>99%)
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BOULTON John Burton Lincoln 7a 1396
BURTON Gwendoline M Boulton Lincoln 7a 1396


Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
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Boulton John Wheildon Lincoln 7a 885


1939 Register (Find My Past)

171 Goldsmith Walk , Lincoln C.B., Lincolnshire
John Boulton 24 Dec 1875 Male Corporation General Labourer Married
Alice Boulton 16 Apr 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
John Boulton 16 Aug 1922 Male Mason Apprentice Single
Alfred Willey 22 Jul 1916 Male Builder's General Labourer Married
Florence M Willey 09 Oct 1919 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married


Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
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Boulton Florence M Willey Lincoln 7a 1920
Willey Alfred W Boulton Lincoln 7a 1920


(Thomas also Sincil Street, 1939)

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription

First name(s) Alice
Last name Boulton
Birth year 1899
Birth date 29 Jun 1899
Event year 1906
School name Derby British School, Orchard Street School (Later Lancaster Secondary Modern) Infants
Town Derby
County Derbyshire
Parent name(s) -
Book type Admissions
Archive reference D3839_1_2
Folio / page no. -
Archive Derbyshire Record Office

Address: Goodwin Street

Annie Boulton of Goodwin Street listed on same page

Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Bolton Alice Shardlow 7b 550

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Could well be!, does say Last School Attended, Nottingham...

(Annie, Last Day of Attendance 11/3/10 Cause of Leaving, Gone to London)

Chris :)

Births Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Boulton Annie Maria Lincoln 7a 541


Marriages Mar 1922 (>99%)
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BOULTON Annie M Gresham Lincoln 7a 832
GRESHAM Joseph Boulton Lincoln 7a 832

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Annie Maria
Last name Boulton
Age 19
Marriage year 1922
Marriage date 1922
Marriage place Lincoln
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Boulton
Spouse's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's last name Gresham
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Gresham


1939 Register (Find My Past)

141 Browning Drive , Lincoln C.B., Lincolnshire
Annie M Gresham 07 Mar 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Joseph Gresham 01 Feb 1902 Male Builders Labourer Married