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From the GRO site -

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HEWITT, NORMAN PLANT
GRO Reference: 1915 M Quarter in RUNCORN Volume 08A Page 375


1921 Census Of England & Wales
Waste Lane Farm, Wastelane Farm, Thelwall, Grappenhall, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Edwin Hewitt Head Male 1863 57 Chester, Cheshire, England Farmer Employer
Elizabeth Hewitt Wife Female 1869 52 Little Leigh, Cheshire, England Home Duties -
Percy Hewitt Son Male 1895 25 Chester, Cheshire, England Assiting Father On Farm Work Edwin Hewitt Farmer Waste Lane
Norman Hewitt Son Male 1915 6 Chester, Cheshire, England - -

1939 Register
"farm" Weaste Lane, Thelwall, Runcorn R.D., Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Elizabeth Hewitt 14 Jan 1869 Female Householder & Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 62 1
Norman Hewitt 31 Dec 1914 Male Farmer Single 62 2
William H Plant 12 Jun 1876 Male Country Council Worker (Now Incapacitated) Widowed 62 3

Thank you

Doris had married in 1939

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)
Hinsley Alfred H F Petts Runcorn 8a 979
Petts Doris Hinsley Runcorn 8a 979

and then to Norman in 1944

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Runcorn, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Norman
Last name Hewitt
Marriage year 1944Marriage quarter 4
Volume 8A
Page number 563
MarriageFinder™ Norman Hewitt married one of these people Doris Hinsley

Spouse's last name Hinsley Or Petts

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A daughter born to the marriage 1946 and probably married 1971 with children to that marriage.

For your future use, Pat

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Hope you find it helpful

I assume you already use freebmd ......................

Further to posts by greyghost.......purely for interest

Marriages Dec 1945 (>99%)
Hinsley Alfred H F Walker Bridgnorth 6a 1746
Walker Alice M Hinsley Bridgnorth 6a 1746

Name Alfred H F Hinsley
Arrival Age 41
Birth Date abt 1913
Port of Departure Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date 24 Aug 1954
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage Montreal and Quebec
Ship Name Empress of France
Shipping Line Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number 160482
Also travelling, Alice M Hinsley
Going to an address in Wolverhampton

Name A H F Hinsley
Address 56 Clifton rd
Publication Year 1959
Directory Place Bangor, Northern Ireland
Exchange Bangor
Page number 1110

1939 Register
446 Stockport Road, Thelwall, Runcorn R.D., Cheshire, England
Herbert Hinsley 03 Mar 1879 Male Garage Hand Married 27 1
May C Hinsley 11 May 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 27 2
Alfred H F Hinsley 06 Jan 1913 Male Electrician Installation Manu Single 27 3

Name Doris Petts
Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Marriage Age 22
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1917
Marriage Date 30 Dec 1939
Marriage Place Thelwall, All Saints, England
Father Walter Petts
Spouse Alfred Herbert Frank Hinsley


1939 Register
Old Village Farm New Ferry Lane, Thelwall, Runcorn R.D., Cheshire, England
Walter Cetts 31 Dec 1888 Male Builder (Master) Married 58 1
Emma L Cetts 29 May 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 58 2
Doris Hewitt (Heasley,Cetts) 19 Jan 1917 Female Confetioner (Cake - Maker) Single 58 3
Harold Cetts 27 May 1923 Male Chemical & Sanitary Plumber Single 58 4

Corrections submitted to FMP - although writing is very poor, so they may not accept them

From a tree on Ancestry
ALFRED HINSLEY
Spouse Doris Petts
Father Herbert Hinsley
Mother May Caroline Foxall
Birth 6 Jan 1913 Shropshire, England
Death 2 May 1976 Bangor, Down, Northern Ireland

There seems to be some skullduggery regarding Doris.
On the 1939 register Arthur H.F Hinsley is living with his parents and listed as single. In December 1939 he married Doris Petts but you will see that she is listed on the 1939 register as living with her parents and says her name is Hewitt. Parents listed as Cetes but think that should be Petts but she didn’t marry Norman until 1944. Was the marriage bigamous?
After she married Arthur he went off to Canada. I don’t know when but took a new wife with him called Alice who he married in 1945 so it must have been 1945 or after. They returned in 1954. Surely they didn’t both divorce because it was a sin in those days. Arthur and Alice seem to have ended up in Wolverhampton. Maybe Alice came from there. There is a mention of Bangor, Northern Ireland so did they flee there to get out of the way.
Such a can of worms. Hope you can follow my ramblings.
Pat.

No, her name is NOT Hewitt in 1939

Her name in 1939 is PETTS - as I said, I’ve advised FMP that corrections need to be made.

The other names on the transcriptions are her two married names

If you read all the info I posted, you will find things much easier to understand

Divorce wasn’t a sin except to Roman Catholics - as it still is, as far as I know.

I’m sorry that I misunderstood your message. I thought the corrections were for the names of Cetts.
Pat.

The corrections certainly were for CETTS, which was a mistranscription of PETTS!!…..and the woman’s other surnames were clearly shown, even if one of them was also mistranscribed

Many thanks for all who helped. Will take some time to process.
Pat.

"Arthur" 's name was Alfred. [EDIT: Oops - I see already posted by ErikaH.]

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Hinsley Alfred H F Foxall Bridgnorth 6a 1017



Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)
Hinsley Alfred H F Petts Runcorn 8a 979
Petts Doris Hinsley Runcorn 8a 979


Marriages Dec 1945 (>99%)
Hinsley Alfred H F Walker Bridgnorth 6a 1746 S
Walker Alice M Hinsley Bridgnorth 6a 1746

Seems FMP are on the ball with corrections !!

1939 Register
Old Village Farm New Ferry Lane, Thelwall, Runcorn R.D., Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Walter Petts 31 Dec 1888 Male Builder (Master) Married 58 1
Emma L Petts 29 May 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 58 2
Doris Hewitt (Hinsley,Petts) 19 Jan 1917 Female Confetioner (Cake - Maker) Single 58 3
Harold Petts 27 May 1923 Male Chemical & Sanitary Plumber Single 58 4

They dealt with that quickly!!

Title Mrs
Area Warrington
First name(s) Doris
Postcode area WA
Last name Hewitt
Postcode district WA4
Sex Female
Postcode sector WA4 3
Birth year 1917
County Lancashire
Birth date 19 Jan 1917
Country England
Age 92
Record set England & Wales Deaths 2007-2024
Death year 2009
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death date 09 May 2009
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Residence Warrington


Name Norman Hewitt
Death Date 19 Oct 1988
Death Place Thelwall Chester
Probate Date 13 Apr 1989
Probate Registry Manchester

Deaths 1988 (>99%)
HEWITT NORMAN 31DE1914 WARRINGTON 35 1052

Name Norman Hewitt
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 14 Feb 1915
Baptism Place Thelwall, All Saints, England
Father Edwin Hewitt
Mother Elizabeth Hewitt
Description Thelwall, All Saints. Baptisms
Page number 108


Name Norman Hewett
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Birth Date 31 Dec 1914
Residence Date 1939
Address Farm
Residence Place Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Occupation Farmer
Line Number 24
Schedule Number 62
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Lgpa
Borough Runcorn
Registration district 446/1.
Inferred Mother
Elizabeth Hewett
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
Elizabeth Hewett
Female
14 Jan 1869
Norman Hewett Male 1914
William H Plant
Male
12 Jun 1876

One child from Doris’s marriage to Hewitt.

Not sure why you suggested there was anything untoward in the way Doris’s life panned out :-S :-S