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William Wright abt 1842) and Elizabeth Marriott (abt 1843), married I reckon, somewhere between 1858 at very earliest and 1862 when first son Peter was born. William and Elizabeth were both born in Sutton in Ashfield in Notts. In 1871 Census William’s Brother in Law, Peter Marriott was staying with them. It is Peter Marriott that gives me Elizabeth’s surname. However, I cannot find William and Elizabeth’s marriage. Is it me going doolally (whatever that means) or are their records missing? Gerry :-))

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I have traced Peter Marriott back. He does not seem to have a sister Elizabeth. PS birth Peter Evans Marriott 1849 Oct-Nov-Dec Mansfield Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire 1851 Peter Evans Marriott William,Susannah abt 1850 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Son Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire 1861 Peter Marriott William,Susanah abt 1850 Nottinghamshire, England Son Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire 1871 Peter Marriott abt 1850 Shelton, Nottinghamshire, England Brother-in-law Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire

Ok, Peter is the bro and the sons name, so a good indicator Marriott is right - but say she married before? I know its unlikely but I found a girl marrying at 16 and a widow at 18 recently - which threw me for a marriage! Oops, just seen the above message. May be Peter is the hubby of another sister of the head?

perhaps he was a step brother to William Jeanette

Get the childs birth cert to be sure of the mums maiden name.

You did Jim?? Heather (just seen you on another thread! LOL) No, she wasnt married before. Gerry :-))

on free BMD Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gascoigne Elizabeth Newark 7b 383 Gascoygne Elizabeth Newark 7b 383 Gascoyne Elizabeth Newark 7b 383 Hunt Anne Belper 7b 383 Wright William Newark 7b 383 or Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Drabble Thomas Doncaster 9c 506 Littlewood Ruth Doncaster 9c 506 Luffman Elizabeth Doncaster 9c 506 Wright William Doncaster 9c 506

It was the marriage i really want/need , but yep, if no luck I will have to first check for Elzabeth's maiden name. Gerry :-))

You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1881 England Census about Peter Wright Name: Peter Wright Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Sutton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 160 Forncett St Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Laborer Iron Works Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Brightside ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Abraham Wright 5 Elizabeth Wright 38 George Wright 7 James Wright 9 John Wright 11 Mary Ann Wright 3 Peter Wright 19 Suhannah Wright 15 William Wright 39 William Wright 17 View Original Record Get all the details available on the original record image. Subscribe Now View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4661; Folio: 143; Page: 41; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342127. Page Tools Save record to someone in my tree Save record to my shoebox Comments and Corrections View printer-friendly Make a Connection Not sure where to start? Often it's helpful to contact others who share your research interests: Find others searching for Peter Wright Attach to someone in my tree Add this record as a source for someone in your tree (or add as a new person) Save to my shoebox Save this record for later evaluation and organization or Cancel Source Information: Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1881 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. 1881 British Isles Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of This looks like the family, could not find the marriage. Barbara.

Thanks Barabara. It is the family. I am beginning to think the brother in law thing is a bit of a red herring..... Jeanette, thank you too. I have sent for a birth cert for one of the kids to check on Elizabeth's maiden name. Gerry :-))

William's brother in law could be his sister's husband................ Reg

Hi Gerry, not so sure Peter BIL is a red herring, here's Peter in 1851. Name: Peter Evans Marriott Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Susannah Gender: Male Where born: Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Sutton IN Ashfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Warsop ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 67 Household Members: Name Age James Cartledge 21 Sarah Cartledge 17 Thos Clarke 91 Joseph Marriott 10 Peter Evans Marriott 1 Sarah Evans Marriott 4 Susannah Marriott 30 William Marriott 39 Joseph Marriott abt 1841 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Nephew Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Peter Evans Marriott abt 1850 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Son Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Sarah Evans Marriott abt 1847 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Susannah Marriott abt 1821 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire William Marriott abt 1812 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Head Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Sarah and Peter both have Evans as middle name, as yet I have not found a marriage to confirm Susannah's maiden name is Evans. Living next door to them is this family, note grandaughter Elizabeth Evans living with them. Just a theory but marybe Elizabeth Evans is the daughter of Susannah before she married Mr Marriott and therefore half sister to Peter Marriott which would make him William Wright's brother-in-law. Also the fact that Susannah called two of her children Sarah and Peter have drawn me to this family. Carr Evans abt 1831 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Son Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Elizabeth Evans abt 1845 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire John Evans abt 1835 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Son Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Peter Evans abt 1794 City, Lincolnshire, England Head Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Peter Evans abt 1824 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Son Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire Sarah Evans abt 1798 Sutton IN Ashfd, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Sutton IN Ashfield Nottinghamshire

I wonder if Elizabeth and William Wright's eldest son Peter was also born before marriage?? Births Mar 1862 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EVANS Peter Wright Mansfield 7b 58

If all assumptions turn out to be correct this might be their marriage?? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ..........>EVANS Elizabeth Belper 7b 705 SMITH Elizabeth Belper 7B 705 WILSON Thomas Belper 7b 705 .........>WRIGHT William Belper 7b 705

Brother-in-law doesn't indicate whether he is the wife's brother or the husband of a sister of the head of the household. So Marriott is not necessarily the maiden name of the wife. Also in the 1800s and earlier, 'in-law' was often used instead of 'step' so he could be a step-brother of the head of the household. Regards Lesley Instone

For all those that helped me and like to know what eventually happened............. Elizabeth's maiden name was Evans. I got this from one of the children's birth cert. I am inclined to Fiona's thoughts and will now spend a fortune checking this out! LOL Gerry :-))