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Tracing births with little info to go on

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Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 10 Mar 2007 20:53

I am trying to find out the births & consequently more info about my g grandparents. Unfortunately I have no grandparents left to ask. I have their marriage cert details are: Marriage 11/03/1911 - Chester Registry Office Robert Jones - aged 24 - collier - 86 Westminster Road Hoole - Father John jones - collier Hannah Davies - aged 25 - 28 Prescott street Hoole - Father David Davies - Wheelwright Witnesses - W F Mather & Elizabeth Mather I have searched 1901 census in Hoole but they were not there then. As you can see very common name. Any advice or help most welcome. :-{

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:04

I think both Jones & Davies are Welsh names but very common, think this is going to be a tough one. Have you tried Wales 1901? Selena

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:05

Have you got a middle name? Mar 1886 birth JONES Robert Alfred Chester 8a 407 Just having a look on family search....

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:21

Births Mar 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAVIES Hannah Chester 8a 446

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 10 Mar 2007 21:21

No sorry no middle names for either.

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:23

I've had so many times when the ages are not 'quite' right! It gets worse the further back you go. There are loads of Hannah Davies, but this is the nearest in age in the right area. If you decide to order the birth certificates, you could use the fathers' names as a checking point and then you won't lose all money if they are wrong - I think they refund 3pnds per cert if not right. Best bet is if someone could find them on the 1901, I don't have ancestry unfortunately. Good luck, Selena

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 10 Mar 2007 21:28

Selena Her age is given as 25 in 1911, so she was born around 1886? Is that right?

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 10 Mar 2007 21:30

Found this? 1891 England Census about Robert Jones Name: Robert Jones Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Cheshire, England Civil parish: Chester Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Chester County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Chester Sub-registration district: Chester Cathedral ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Jones 11 >>>Robert Jones 4 Ann Wright 70 Frank Wright 70 Jane Wright 47 <<should be Jane Jones. Transcribed wrong (widow) Gerri x

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 10 Mar 2007 21:38

Thanks Selina, I didn't know you could order certificates with so little information. TVM Susie

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:38

Take your pick! Births Jun 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Alice Edith Chester 8a 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1881 (86%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JONES Alice Chester 8a 439 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JONES Alice Chester 8a 422 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Alice Chester 8a 406 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Alice Chester 8a 397

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:42

What relationship is Jane to the Wright family? Selena

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:43

You only need the info that I have given above. You don't need the parents names to order but can be useful for checking with commons names. Make sure you go to the proper site, never pay more than 7pnds per cert. I have heard some are charging 20-30pnds. Definately a rip off. There are loads of marriages of John Jones to Jane Wright (incase thats her parents) but none in right area or time. go to go now, starving, pot noodle is calling me. Selena PS you need the volume and page number to order as given above i,e, 1a 123 etc

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 10 Mar 2007 21:46

This is the same family in 1881 and Jane is given as a widow Name: Frank Wright Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Kegworth, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Openshaw County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 6 Toxteth St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Joiner Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 74 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Jones Frank Jones 16 Jane Jones 36 Matilda Jones 13 Ann Wright 59 Frank Wright 60 Fred Wright 26 So don't know who Robert's father is

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 10 Mar 2007 21:51

Sorry got the link now but if Jane was a window in 1881 Robert was not born until 1887 and we know his father was John Jones. so that can't be the right family can it? Susie :-{

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 10 Mar 2007 21:51

In 1871 Jane is living with her parents and given as married though no sign of her husband. However, her occupation is given as 'wife of a stonemason' Seems to be a different family

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2007 21:52

Listed above is a Robert Jones with mum called Jane living with the Wright family. good luck to you,.

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 10 Mar 2007 21:57

I'm lost with the mention of the Wright family are you on the wrong thread?

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 10 Mar 2007 22:01

1891 we have Robert Jones aged 4 with mother Jane and grandparents Frank and Ann Wright - one of the earliest posts. I've looked to see if I could find Jane Jones on earlier censuses and she is always living with her parents hence the Wrights keep appearing.

Susie Floosie

Susie Floosie Report 10 Mar 2007 22:17

Yes, got in now should read replies more thourouly, but can't be jane as Robert not born until 1887?

~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 10 Mar 2007 23:04

Susie, I have pm'd you. Lou