Genealogy Chat

OC I have had a dig around and found a 'new' act in 1976. http://www.dca.gov.uk/civil/procrules_fin/contents/schedule2/ccrorder46.htm I can't see anything for the time between 1926 and 1976. Chris

Chris Yes, that will be the one I was thinking of - I should have said that I didnt think it was relevant in this particular case, sorry! OC

I have not yet had a reply from the GRO, but for some reason I had a brain wave today to search for births under the surname that was the same as the unusual 3rd forename of the son. Well there was the birth re-registration with the correct MMN and the correct district in the correct quarter of 1948. Absolutely still no sign of a re-marriage under that name either or any other children born all the way through up to and including 1957. The name appears to me to be perhaps Italian, so I am wondering if perhaps my aunt may have moved overseas. Also no death for the first husband including on the Metropolitan Police Site for WW2 deaths. The possible death was listed on the War Graves and the Middle name was definately wrong as was the age.

If an individual, who was registered under the name of his mother's legal husband, but later changed his name through Deed Poll to that of his natural father, where would this corrected information be found? Is there a link to the original birth registration? I'm thinking there must be many 'lost' children otherwise. Chris

Chris I don't think birth records could be changed easily before DNA testing. I am currently trying to track down a Deed Poll change of name for my father. Seems I come from a family that is very good at disapearing. I have what I would 'wager my house on' is my father's birth cert but have nothing much to link me to it. Other than identical birth dates and several old photos.

registrations of B M D cannot be altered only reregistered and in this case the new registration certificates should be issued, but in either case the index entry will not change nor a second entry added to the index for the re-registration Birth registrations are not re-registered when a person changes their name by deed poll, nor a record of the new name linked to the birth registration. Hope this makes sense. Ann

I don't think this will help you but it is useful info to bear in mind. My Mother was born in 1943. Both of my Grandparents were married to other people and on registration, my Mother was registered in Nans husbands name. Upon the death of Grandads wife my Nan divorced her husband and married Grandad. They then both had to adopt my Mother.(with Nans ex husbands permission)

Ann there actually is a 2nd index for the re-registered birth in this case in 1948 (the original birth was recorded in 1946) and I have that information from the GRO themselves. I am still corresponding with the GRO and will update the outcome of this in a few days.

Thanks for that Kerry, I once worked in local RO for a short time and was led to believe index wasn;t changed, obviously this was wrong, thanks for pointing it out. Sorry if i mislead you. Good luck in your search. Ann

Actually Ann you were correct and the original birth registration index still exists (as this how I found the birth) but it has a hand written notation added with the date of the re-registration. Other than that it was not altered.

Sorry for butting in... great thread by the way. I'm also under the believe that no-one can be registered twice as your only born once. However, if there is a changed to be made the original is 'amended' not but not re registered. Cheers Gerry

Original Birth registrations can not be changed, although they can have a note added if there has been a genuine mistake. As far as Deed Polls are concerned, contrary to popular belief, there is no central register of name changes in the United Kingdom. Deed Polls are not registered anywhere unless they are 'enrolled' i.e. lodged for safe keeping, in the Close Rolls of the Chancery (from 1851 to 1902) and from 1903, in the Enrolment Books of the Supreme Court of Judicature, which is located within the Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand, London.

The re-registered birth certificate has been produced and is being sent to me. Thanks OC for your suggestion to write to the GRO and ask about it. And yes there are definately 2 indexs for the one birth. I will update when the certificate arrives in case anyone is interested in whether there is any reference to the original birth index on the updated certificate.

Hi Kerry, glad the certs on its way, hope its got all you need will be watching for ur update Ann