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I am trying to find a Mary Ann COOTE on the 1851 and 1861 census. Someone looked up for me and I think they might have found the family but my Mary Ann was not there on either census. I have a birth certificate showing her born in September 1841 in Witham, Essex but her marriage cert and the 1871/81/91/1901 census and the death index all show her born c1843. Maybe this birth cert isn’t of my Mary but I can find no other Mary’s on the birth index born in the Witham district, although I have found a Cooke born in 1843. So would someone kindly look up all Mary COOTE’s born in Essex who would be born between 1841 & 1843 on the 1851 & 1861 census please, I am hoping she will turn up somewhere. Many thanks Josie

If you have the birth cert, you will know the names of the parents.........what are they? Do they match those of 'your' Mary? Who did she marry? And when? What was her father's name and occupation? (from the marriage cert) Reg

Is this her with her family on the 1851? It seems the only Mary Coote born in Witham that I can see, although here it says born 1839 1851 England Census about Mary Coote Name: Mary Coote Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Peter Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Witham, Essex, England Civil parish: Witham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Witham Sub-registration district: Kelvedon ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age Edmund Coote 17 Eliza Coote 22 Elizabeth Coote 11 Emma Coote 8 Mary Coote 46 Mary Coote 12 Peter Coote 49 Peter Coote 14 Thomas Coote 19 View Original Record View original image View

Yes I do have a birth certificate but I'm not sure it is the right one. Parents names are John COOTE [that is right as it's on the marriage cert] occupation Appraiser, and mother Mary formerly Holland. John was an auctioneer on Mary Ann's marriage cert in 1868. Someone had looked up the 51 & 61 census and found a John & Mary Coote in Witham, he was an Auctioneer but Mary Ann wasn't with them, and as she would have been somewhere between 7 & 9 I would have thought she would have been there, so I'm hoping she was staying with someone else. If she was it is possible they may have entered down the place of birth wrong so that's why I think any born in Essex. Josie

The same on the 1861 1861 England Census about Mary Coote Name: Mary Coote Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Peter Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Witham, Essex, England Civil parish: Witham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Witham Sub-registration district: Witham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Mary Coote 56 Mary Coote 22 Peter Coote 59 Arthur Geor Hammond 3 Harvey Saml Hammond 3 View Original Record View original image View blank form

Obviously those were the wrong ones that I saw

Hope this makes sense ... 1851 ------- Name - (Parent or spouse names) Birth Year/Birthplace, (Relation) Civil parish County Mary A Coote (Joseph, Sarah) abt 1841/Stratford, (Daughter) West Ham Essex 1861 ------- Name - (Parent or spouse names) Birth Year/Birthplace, (Relation) Civil parish County Mary Jane Coot - (Peter, Emma) abt 1841 / Ashdon, (Daughter ) Bartlow Essex Mary Coote abt 1841 / Bulmer, (Servant) St Marylebone Middlesex Mary Ann Coote abt 1842 / Stratford, (Niece) Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex Mary Ann Coote abt 1842 / Weathersfield, (Servant) Westminster St Martin IN The Fields Middlesex Mary Ann Coots abt 1843 / Little Golding, (Servant) St Pancras Middlesex

MAGGIE thanks but they are not my ones although I'll make a note of them incase they turn out to be related in some way. PAUL thanks for looking, shame you only found one on the 1851 ansd she isn't mine, and I suppose if she was a servant in 1861 then it would be pure guess work. REGGIE Birth Cert - Not sure I have the right one. Mary Ann COOTE born 5 Sep 1841 Witham Father - John COOTE occupation Appraiser Mother - Mary COOTE formerly Holland Marriage Cert - I know this is right Mary Ann COOTE married James Bond [should be Bird]GARNHAM 7 Feb 1868 St Nicholas Witham Mary's father John COOTE Auctioneer Mary shows on 1871/81/91/01 census as ages 28/38/38/36 [that means birth year c1843] and born Witham She died 5 March 1906 and the death index shows her age as 63 Thanks for trying everyone

Hi Joseanne Here is a list owith a wider date of birth 1842 +-5 Hope it helps .... Paul 1851 ------- Name - (Parent or spouse names) Birth Year Birthplace (Relation) Civil parish County Mary Ann Coot (John,Susan) abt 1844 S Walden, (Daughter) Saffron Walden Essex Mary Coote (Ann) abt 1840 Radwinter, (Daughter) Radwinter Essex Mary Coote (Peter,Mary) abt 1839 Witham, (Daughter) Witham Essex Mary A Coote (Joseph, Sarah) abt 1841 Stratford, (Daughter) West Ham Essex Mary Ann Coote (William,Marram) abt 1839 Stratford, (Daughter) West Ham Essex Mary Ann Coote (Joseph, Mary) abt 1844 Elsenham, (Daughter) Bishops Stortford Hertfordshire Mary Anne Coote (Charles, Sophia) abt 1837 Radwinter, (Daughter) Wimbish Essex

Thanks for looking Paul but none of them are her as her father is John. I'm sure the family on the 1851 census of John Cooke 55 Auctioneer, wife Mary 49, daughter Susannah 26 & Son George 29 is the right family, as the 1861 census shows them with grandchildren Florence & Fredk LAKE and the 1881 census has John remarried and grandchildren Florence & Ardley LAKE. Ardley is an unusual name and it is my grandfather's middle name. Shame nothing is coming up with Mary unless the Mary Ann COOKE I found on the birth index born 1843 in Witham is my Mary, maybe someone can see if they can find her and see if her father is a John who is an auctioneer. I know that COOTE is the right surname as that becomes middle names for one of Mary Ann's children and grandchildren but suppose it might be transcribed as Cooke.