Genealogy Chat

On the Woolverley page the entry for Thomas Shone aged 18 has an M and either an F or S in the occupation column can anyone tell me what they mean. And why do the households not seem to have families in them just a mixture of various people? Sue

These are the members of the household. Jane Brown abt 1823 Shropshire, England Wem Shropshire Jane Jenks abt 1819 Shropshire, England Wem Shropshire Thomas Jones abt 1816 Shropshire, England Wem Shropshire Thomas Shone abt 1823 Shropshire, England Wem Shropshire They are the household servants, MS = Male servants, FS = female servant.

MS and FS meant Male Servant and Female Servant

Thanks chaps thats great, do you have any idea how I would find out who Thomas's parent were if they are not in family groups? Sue

There are some on the IGI.......but you'd need the father's name from a marriage cert to cross-refer. Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. THOMAS SHONE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 01 MAR 1823 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England 2. THOMAS SHONE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 21 SEP 1823 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England 3. THOMAS SHONE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 09 NOV 1823 Wem, Shropshire, England 4. THOMAS SHONE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 27 JUN 1824 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Do you know who (or even, if) he married? Reg

Hello, The 1841 census does not give relationships between people. The // before a name means a new building is being listed, and in this there could be more than one family or group - each of these is separated by a single /. In your example, the four sevants are in the same building as Ann Tunnah, a farmer (listed on the previous page), but they are in separate accommodation. To find parents in this case may not be easy. The 1851 census might give information as to his place of birth. There may be a baptism on IGI. A marriage cert could give the name and occupation of his father. You might then have to search Paris Records for information. Hope this helps Hilary

Yes by the 1951 census he had married a lady called Emma, but i can't find a marriage certificate, I have all the census records going back from 1901 to 1841 with my family thread going through generally they all resided in Wem and St Giles. Emma was born in Petton I think!

Reggie I think I've found them on IGI , I think his wife was emma bagley! Thanks for the tip, didn't know about IGI.

Is this the possible marriage? Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Bagley Emma Shrewsbury 18 303 HUGHES William Shrewsbury 18 303 Roberts Mary Shrewsbury 18 303 >>>Shone Thomas Shrewsbury 18 303 Buy one of the kids birth certs for mums maiden name. If its Bagley, buy this marriage cert to get her fathers name/occup

Hilary Is there anyway of finding out what the buiding was, I suppose that's hoing too much? Struggling Sue

In case you didnt see my earlier post with the marriage ref: On freebmd Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Bagley Emma Shrewsbury 18 303 HUGHES William Shrewsbury 18 303 Roberts Mary Shrewsbury 18 303 >>>Shone Thomas Shrewsbury 18 303 Buy one of the kids birth certs for mums maiden name. If its Bagley, buy this marriage cert to get her fathers name/occup

Are you ok for buying certs? GRO online, use the ref - £7 (never use any other site or pay more)

Thanks Heather that seems the best way to be certain. Sue

Heather Yes thanks bought my first one at the beginning of th month, very excited when it came to find I was on the right lines. My only problem is that there's so much to do that I keep flitting from one line to another. 4 hrs a night on the lap top, not sure hubby is happy about getting this wireless network for Christmas!!

I think they were living at a farm, but only by looking at maps from the time, and studying the route taken by the census enumerator can you get some idea of the exact location. Sometimes you can be lucky and a dwelling will be next to a pub or school and the building is still there. Further study of land owners and their tenants (from documents at county Record Offices) at the dates involved can also assist.

Thanks Hilary That's given me a load of work to be getting on with.