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Hi can anyone help trace the birth details of this person i have the marriage details and the death but cant find the birth, details as follows. John Birchmore married Mary ann corbett 1880 Q2 croyden reference 2A page 289 Died Epsom surrey 1885 Q4 reference 2A page 6 age at death 27. This is all the information i have. Thanks in advance Tara

he could have been not registered wasn't law until1875 Jeanette

Oh i hope not as i have spent hours on this...... any ides on what i can do to find out anymore informmation, or is ths now a dead end. I have been doing this for several months now and thought i was getting the hang of it (sob sob ) lol Thanks anyway Tara

you can look for free on ancestry BMD index 1837-1983 http://www(.)ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx remove brackets Jeanette

What is his father's name on his marriage cert? OC

His fathers name was also John Birchmore, they have all been John birchmore going down to the present day which is why i think ive hit a brick wall, dont feel like ive looked for different people at all..

Hi Jeanette have looked on Ancestry but with no luck...

Was he a baker? 1881 Right name, right place, right wifes name. Born Kenworth Herts. Birchmore Name: John Birchmore Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Kensworth, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Cheam County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Station Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Baker Registration district: Epsom Sub-registration district: Carshalton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Birchmore 23 Mary Birchmore 23

You sure of dads name? 1861: Name: John Birchmore Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Kensworth, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Kensworth County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Dunstable ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age John Birchmore 3 Sarah Birchmore 26 William Birchmore 24

Hi Heather Thanks for the information i was trying to find details of the birth so i could order a cert hitting a brick wall, and thought this was the only way to try and get more info on the family, but if the birth has not been registered then im stumped for a while. Tara

There is a John Burchmore on Ancestry, q4, Luton 3b 394 Any good? Linda

Well, if this is the right bloke, looks like you have a father who is William John perhaps? Is it the right man? Was your chap a baker and what was his fathers occupation.

Hi Heather Said id had enough didnt i lol just realised that i had read the same name out twice to you.... Looks like you have found my guy ! it great if this is as there is a different name wey hey lol Thanks heaps for your help i will take the information and see what eles i can find. Thanks to all for the help. Tara

So was he a baker and his father an ag lab?

Have you looked at the full bmd index on ancestry - not just the name searchable freebmd one? If you have actually looked at the images not just the name search and he isnt there, then if that is the right chap in Herts and it certainly seems to be, why dont you send for a siblings birth cert?

yes he was a baker, dont know about the father though, i have also ordered the death cert as he died after just five years of marriage and im curious to find out why. Tara

Hi Heather sorry what cencus did you find this on. might sound dumb but i have gone a bit brain dead.

Ive put the dates at the top of each message. The last one is 1871. Shame, no older siblings on there - Ive had to buy older kids birth certs before now. It may be that Lindas one may match - Burchmore. Not sure if Luton is right district - you can google to see if it covers the area shown as his birth place. Nite nite. Hope it works out.

Heather you have been a star, really had had enough with this, started as homework for my daughter then i caught the bug, now she thinks i have issues lol Thanks heaps Tara

Did it not say on the marriage cert his dads occupation? Assuming it is him - change of name spelling in 1871: Name: John Burchmore Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Kensworth, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Sutton Ecclesiastical parish: Benhilton County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub-registration district: Carshalton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 201 Household Members: Name Age John Burchmore 13 Sarah Burchmore 36 William Burchmore 34 Alfred Hall 24 Job Stevens 21