Genealogy Chat

can anyone help please....found out my g.g.g.grandfather was named john hartley-barker at birth....his wife and children were hartley-barker,but later on they dropped the barker and were just named Hartley....my g.g grandmother was married as martha ann hartley....they were from dunham massey,just outside altringham,cheshire.....when looking for ancestors,do i look for hartley or barker, or hartley-barker in records?...i`ve tried hartley and barker on cheshire bmd`s,and although they`re not complete,i can`t find john hartley barkers bros/sisters or parents...john was born 1835/36...he should be in 1841 census somewhere....regards....allan

you look for him under barker and Hartly becomes his middle name Jeanette

what was his wifes name? Jeanette

thanks jeanette.....i`ve got 370 people in my tree,and this is the first double barreled surname i`ve had....i`ll start looking for john barker in `1841 census`.....regards...allan...just seen 2nd posting....his wife was martha collins...parents abraham and martha...also from dunham massey

1871 I wonder if a releative? John Hartley Barker Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Nancy Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Hannah H Barker 8 John Barker 5 John Hartley Barker 36 Martha Ann Barker 10 Nancy Barker 43 1881 John Hartley Barker Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Nancy H. Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 8 Oldfield Road Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Butcher Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Hannah H. Barker 18 John H. Barker 15 John Hartley Barker 46 Martha Ann Barker 20 Nancy H. Barker 53

This is their marriage from the IGI: JOHN HARTLEY BARKER Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: MARTHA COLLINS Family Marriage: 26 DEC 1858 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England Kate.

hi jeanette/kate...apologies to you both....i put down 1825 instead of 1835 for johns birth.....you`ve both got the right man and family....i`m trying to find john hartley barker on 1841 census when johns about 6 with his parents and bros/sisters if he has any.....where do i look??...regards...allan

Allan, They could be listed as Hartley or Barker or Hartley-Barker or H Barker. Some of my family were listed with one name and some with both and some were registered at birth with one name and married with both. Luckily mine were unusual names so not too difficult to find. Heather

thanks heather....i`m having a problem finding john hartley barker because he was born before the 1837 records began....i would have thought he would have been on 1841 census as a 6 yr old living with his parents...i presume dunham massey...where would i obtain this info??....regards...allan