Genealogy Chat

Im trying to find out about my great grandad, I know his name was George frederick warner, possibly born in Luton and lived there, married Katherine Bacchus and had one child, my nan. He died in WW1 and i have his death dates and details, but i cant find anything about when and where he was born. There is talk in the family that he was adopted, born out of wedlock and links to a greengrocer. How would i find out his birth name? Would it be on his marriage certificate? Is there any way of etting more info about him, possibly going through the WW1 connection? many thanks

His marriage cert will only show the name he married under. What time period are you looking at because lots of 'adoptions' were unofficial arrangements would try first with the marriage cert Heres the marriage ref:- Dec 1910 Luton 3b 925. Would def get that cert as a start

Ok he died in 1917 and his wife was born 1891, not sure how old he was, or when he was born :0(

If he died in WW1 was he in the Forces? If so his Army/Navy record may have information that could help. That info is at Kew if it wasn't destroyed in WW2, like my GGrandfathers :((( Chris

Is there anything available online or is it a trip to Kew?

well hes on the CWGC site as died 2/12/1917 and commemorated at the Cambrai Memorial Louveral, I gave you the marriage ref in 1910 I would certainly get the cert .will tell you his age & poss his father. If he was illegitmate then looking for the birth cert in his mums maiden name may help

Sophie As far as I am aware nothing is available online yet.....But they are bringing more and more records available through their digital access facility (See their site for more details about available records) Chris

But there's very little left of WW1 records cos these were badly burnt in an air raid in WW2 those that survive are known as the burnt records and are held at Kew. What you may find is his medal card and you search for this online at the National Archives website. put his name in the search box on the home page . As I have previously posted you can get now his marriage cert with the GRO ref i posted

Thanks, i did order the marriage cert on sat i cant wait for it to come!!

this is a possiblity if you think he was orphaned 1901 census about George Warner Name: George Warner Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Luton, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: Bishop Ryder County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: Industrial School Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Barber 11 Arthur Ford 11 George Renshaw 12 Henry Scandlon 13 Arthur Sears 14 Isaac Sharpe 14 James Sidwell 12 Charles Smith 12 Herbert Smith 11 Noah Smith 12 Thomas Smith 13 James Spooner 13 John Starmer 11 Frederick Strong 10 William Styles 12 Bertie Talmage 11 Theres lots more inmates too of course!! his occupation is given as Shoemaker. (poor little soul at 13!!)