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help needed please
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Jackie | Report | 7 Nov 2006 17:50 |
hi all! I am looking for my grandmother who was known as either Ceilia Florence farrant or Florence A Farrant (this is a recent discovery for me so sorry if it sounds a bit confused!). I have records of her marriage to my grandfather but I cannot find her birth records. I know that she died in 1950 at the age of 58 and her wedding was in the summer of 1928. |
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K | Report | 7 Nov 2006 17:58 |
Do you have any idea of where she came from and whether she had any siblings? |
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K | Report | 7 Nov 2006 19:00 |
Jackie In 1928 August there is a Ceciely F Farrant who married a Simmonds 3rd qutr Plymton 5b 475. Was this your grandmother? K |
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Fiona | Report | 7 Nov 2006 19:10 |
Hi Jackie, What was her age on her marriage certificate and her fathers name? Fiona. |
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Jackie | Report | 7 Nov 2006 22:00 |
hi thank you yes it is my grand mother . going by that she was 30 when she married charles h simmonds . but we can not find a birth for her . thankyou jackie |
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K | Report | 8 Nov 2006 06:12 |
So your grandmother married near Plymouth in Devon. If you haven't already you really need to buy her marriage cert detailed above which would give her age, father and his occupation. If you have the cert can you list this as it should help enormously Given her likely birth area of around Plymouth there is a possible birth below, but if she was anything like my grandmother she could have missed a few years off her age when she marrried! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1892 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Farrant Elizabeth Florence Plymouth 5b 261 Just rechecking the messages - was she 30 when she married in 1928 - in which case she would have been born about 1898. Another option as she married rather late in life - had she been married before? Again the cert would clarify |
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Jackie | Report | 8 Nov 2006 17:33 |
I have the marriage certificate but due to the style of writing it is extremely difficult to read. It would appear that her father's name was Luther Farrant, but we are not sure. He was a bricklayer/builder and the cert also states that my grandmother was a spinster prior to her marriage. the other confusion is over her name, as she is buried under the name of Florence A Simmonds. however, we are positive this is her as the death was reported by her husband, my grandfather. J |
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K | Report | 8 Nov 2006 18:09 |
Hi Jackie Thanks for the addtional information - it made all the diiference and I think we have found them There are only two Luther Farrant's on the 1901 Census and the one below is the only one with a daughter of the right age called Florence. Wonders of wonders he is also a bricklayer. All the children where born in Uckfield, Sussex They were living at 2 Garden Walk, Church Street - will give you the other census details and look for a birth after tea Best wishes Kay Name: Luther Farrant Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Buxted, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Uckfield Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Cross Town: Uckfield County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Uckfield Sub-registration district: Isfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Farrant 4 Annie Farrant 33 Edith Farrant 3 Ellen Farrant 10 Florence Farrant 6 Luther Farrant 43 May Farrant 1 |
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K | Report | 8 Nov 2006 18:32 |
Jackie How useful to have an unusual surname - Hope the following in of use Best Wishes Kay Probable birth of Florence Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1895 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Farrant Florence Uckfield 2b 130 Her parents marriage probabley Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1895 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Farrant Luther Uckfield 2b 203 Johnson Elizabeth Annie Uckfield 2b 203 1881 Luther living with parents Name: Luther Farrant Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's name: George - General Labourer - b Framfield Sussex Mother's name: Mary - b Framfield Sussex Gender: Male Where born: Buxted, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: 72 Whichelo Place Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Baker Assistant Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alexander Farrant 8 Elizabeth Farrant 11 Ernest Farrant 15 Frederick Farrant 10 George Farrant 43 George Farrant 17 Luther Farrant 20 Mary Farrant 44 1871 Name: Luther Farrant Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's name: George Mother's name: Mary Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Buxted, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Buxted County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Uckfield Sub-registration district: Maresfield ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Farrant 1 Ernest Farrant 5 Frederick Farrant 2 months George Farrant 34 George Farrant 7 Luther Farrant 10 Mary Elizabeth Farrant 35 Noami Farrant 11 1861 George - Luther's father was a carter and next door were another Farrent family who could well have been his parents - (William Farrent aged 58 -at Shepherds Hill - a farmer of 160 acres employing 4 men born in Framfield, Sussex, his wife Harriet 53 and daughter Mary Ann 26 who is listed as house servant) Luther Farrant Age: 2 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's name: George Mother's name: Mary E Gender: Male Where born: Buxted, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Buxted Ecclesiastical parish: Hadlow Down St Mark County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Uckfield Sub-registration district: Maresfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 32 Household Members: Name Age George Farrant 24 Luther Farrant 2 Mo Mary E Farrant 25 Naomi Farrant 1 Probable marriage of George Farrant and Mary Elizabeth Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1859 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Farrant George Uckfield 2b 116 Hills Mary Elizabeth Uckfield 2b 116 1851 George Farrant with parents - His father was a farmer with 60 acres employing 2 men st Scane Hill Name: George Farrant Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Harriett Gender: Male Where born: Framfield, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Framfield County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Uckfield Sub-registration district: Rotherfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Matthews Eade 25 George Farrant 14 Harriett Farrant 44 Mary Ann Farrant 17 William Farrant 48 |
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K | Report | 8 Nov 2006 19:28 |
1841 1841 Living at Easons Green - William was a rope maker and a few doors away was 'Friend' Farrant age 70 and wife Ann 65 of independent means with children Ann 35 and Thomas 30 listed as farmer - Friend could have been William's father George Farrant Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Sussex, England Civil Parish: Framfield Hundred: Loxfield Dorset County/I Try this site which will give you the families in the village in the 1841 Census http://www.sussexweald(.)org remove the brackets And this site has a message re Friend Farrant b 1770 Framfield (son of Thomas and Elizabeth) and his wife Ann Thomas and their 10 children www(.)genforum.genealogy(.)com/farrant/messages - remove the brackets |
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Jackie | Report | 8 Nov 2006 20:14 |
thank you so much for your help kay I think this is what I have been looking for and I will go through the information you have found tonight :) you've all been a great help thank you very much |