Genealogy Chat

I've just received a birth cert. The fathers name is Thomas Vince and the mother is Emily Lucy Vince formerly Vince. I don't know what to make of this. Their childs birth was 1903 in Hampstead. I've found Thomas in 1901 unmarried living at the same address as the birth cert (he is lodging with his brother). I don't know anything about Emily. I've tried searching 1901 and a few married Emily Vinces show up and a few servants, but nothing in Hampstead. I can't find any marriage for a Thomas Vince to an Emily Lucy any name. What do you think it means? Carole xx

It probably means they were related in some way, before marriage - perhaps cousins. Could she be down in census as Emma/Emmy/Amelia or just plain Lucy ? Where have you looked for a marriage? - remember freeBMD is not complete. Brother wasn't married to an Emma was he? jay

Jay I've only looked on FreeBMD. I wondered if they were related too. I don't know anything about Emily so it's difficult to search not knowing her age or place of birth. Thomas was easy to find as he was a pianoforte maker, not many of those around! He was born c1873 in Essex. The only birth I can find for an Emily Lucy Vince is 1865 Sudbury, so this would make her quite a bit older than him. Carole

Emily Lucy Crane married Thomas Vince in 1902 Emily Lucy Crane Year of Registration: 1902 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Chelmsford County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 988 (click to see others on page) Emily Lucy Vince married George Crane in 1889 Emily Lucy Vince Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Lewisham County: Greater London, Kent, London Volume: 1d Page: 1531 (click to see others on page) Victoria

Thanks Victoria, you are a star! I will get searching now. Carole xx

1901 - Emily L Crane Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Newton, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Kentish Town ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 252 Household Members: Name Age John Connaughton 29 Emily L Crane 32 Mary A Vince 33 And here she is as a little girl with the family including the Mary A who is with her in 1901 Emily Vince Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Jas Gender: Female Where born: Newton, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Newton County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Sudbury Sub-registration district: Melford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 54 Household Members: Name Age Abigail Vince 9 Arthur Vince 11 Emily Vince 5 James Vince 3 Jas Vince 46 Mary Ann Vince 7 Sarah Vince 14 Sarah Vince 86 Septimas Vince 18 Thomas Vince 1 Victoria

Many thanks Victoria, you found her tons quicker than me! The birth cert is misleading though isn't it, saying Emily Vince formerley Vince, that really threw me. Carole xx