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i can't find the marriage of my gggrandparents edward gleed and caroline shepherd i have them in 1901aged23 and 24 respectively and they had two children one aged2 the other less than a year.i know the mothers name from my ggrandmothers birth certificate. i'm now out of ideas.without the marriage cert i'll find it difficult to confirm anything before it. anyone any ideas?

Where have you looked for the marriage? Reg

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For reference The family on 1901 Name: Caroline Gleed Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Edward Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Limehouse Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Gleed 24 <<<<<Poplar Edward Gleed 23 <<<limehouse Edward Gleed 11 months <<<Bromley Mary Ann Gleed 51 <<<<<Poplar Sarah Ann Gleed 2 <<<born Bromley

yes thats the family and like i said yhe mothers maiden name was shepherd but i can't find marriage

Perhaps Caroline was married before: Marriages Jun 1895 Brown Agnes Mary Poplar 1c 1017 Crooks John Poplar 1c 1017 Shepherd Caroline Poplar 1c 1017 Stuart Lewis Poplar 1c 1017 Agnes married Lewis Stuart but I can't find John and Caroline in 1901. Rose

I think that Rose is onto something!! But it seems that Caroline didn't marry Edward until 1915: Marriages Sep 1915 Crooks Caroline Gleed Orsett 4a 1705 Gleed Edward Crooks Orsett 4a 1705 So presumably Edward & Caroline were ''living in sin'' at the time of the 1901 census? (maybe John Crooks was still around at the time!!) Richard

This looks like your Caroline in - 1891 Name: Caroline Shepherd Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Limehouse, London, England Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriels County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Caroline Shepherd 14 Elizabeth Shepherd 8 Emily Shepherd 3 Mary A Shepherd 47 William Shepherd 59 Victoria

Well, it looks as though they did - not in haste, but with due thought, reverence etc etc Caroline Crooks 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Gleed Orsett Essex View Record Edward Gleed 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Crooks Orsett Essex Victoria

And this could be John Crooks - right sort of age, right sort of place - and 'wife' and children whose ages would fit in with the 'all change/find a new partner' scenario. Victoria John C Crooks Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Cecelia Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Mile End Old Town, London, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon Zelotes County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green, East ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 72 Household Members: Name Age Cecelia Crooks 23 Eliza Crooks 63 James Crooks 5 John C Crooks 30 John C Crooks 2