Genealogy Chat

HI Mark Have sent you a PM as well but will post here on site as well just so everyone can see that way then following messages is made a bit easier I followed the Alfred back in the 1891 census and found this Henry Cole bn 1823 Head Widow Devon Occupation Shoe maker Hetty J Cole bn 1872 Daug born Plymouth Alfred E Cole bn 1873 in Plymouth Albert H cole 1880 Plymouth Still living in Plymouth. 1881 census I think you'll like living at Rear of 6 Willow Street Plymouth Henry/transcirbed as Harry Cole 53 bn in Devon Head Shoe Maker Mary A 42 bn Vailsey, Devon Eliza 17 Wm 13 Florrie 11 He** 9 Alfred 9 Albert 1 All kids born Plymouth Also present a Boarder Wm H/E Eke 19 umarried Engine Driver. Wendy

Hi Wendy, That all makes a lot of sense - I'll have to interrogate the father in law some more. Thanks for that. Mark

HI Could this be them in Wales in the 1901 census Albert Cole Stone Quarry man 28 Annie Cole 36 Florence 4 Ernest 3 Albert 2 All the above born in Plymouth William 6months born Caerphilly, Glamorgan Living in sorry cant make out the address. Civil parish: Eglwysilan Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin Town: Caerphilly County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Wendy

Just a little bit more - Albert Edward had two brothers who used to visit the family in Bedwellty from Plymouth - Jack and Ernie Cole (named for his father?). I haven't been able to find either of them in 1901. Mark

Elaine, Just found: Florence A. Cole married Haycock in Bedwellty in September quarter 1920 - just a few months before Albert's marriage! Mark

Yes, me too - Florence is a great find, but (unsurprisingly!) I can't identify her on 1901. Thanks again Mark

definitely drawn a blank now!

That's okay Elaine - thanks for looking. This family have been doing this to me for ages! The bride's father behaves in a similar way - William Edward Eke at birth but William Frederick on censuses ..... Thanks again Mark

back again - just found this birth Florence Annie Cole Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Plymouth County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 268 wonder if she married a Haycock (witness on marriage certificate) - might be worth seeing if we can find her.

Really cant see anything else - sorry.

Have you seen how many 'Bessie Beer's there were !? Mark

Albert´s birth Albert Thomas F Cole Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Plymouth County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 241 not very useful - what´s the F for !!

See you got there before me !!!

Wow - am going round in circles here what about this one in 1891 Harold Beer abt 1890 Plymouth, Devon, England Grandson Charles Devon Julia Beer abt 1828 North Devon Wife Charles Devon Thomas Beer abt 1833 North Devon Head Charles Devon Thomas Beer abt 1874 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Charles Devon Albert T F Cole abt 1890 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Charles Devon Bessie Cole abt 1860 Devonport, Devon, England Daughter Charles Devon Mary K Cole abt 1888 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Charles Devon Bessie listed as married Mary is Mary R not Mary K possible birth for Mary - which could match the Rhoda in 1901 Births Dec 1887 Cole Mary Rhoda E Plymouth 5b 234 Bit of a long shot but worth hanging on to for the moment !!

Ah, I think I've got Bessie - she's living with her father Thomas Beer, Albert must be at sea dredging or whatever. There is a young Albert, but about 10 years too old for mine! Rhoda on 1901 could be Mary R. on 1891 I suppose, and Frederick on 1901 must be Albert T.F. in 1891? So on this basis Harry could be anybody at all! Mark

Will have a look

Elaine, I'm having trouble finding that family again in 1891. Can you see them? Mark

Not having any luck with either of those suggestions!!

I found this one - wonder if Harry is a nickname Albert Cole abt 1861 Plymouth, Devon, England Head Plymouth Devon Bessie Cole abt 1861 Plymouth, Devon, England Wife Plymouth Devon Frederick Cole abt 1890 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Plymouth Devon Harry Cole abt 1898 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Plymouth Devon Irene Cole abt 1900 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Plymouth Devon Lily Cole abt 1894 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Plymouth Devon Rhoda Cole abt 1888 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Plymouth Devon Albert - stoker on dredger ? - suppose might have been a labourer 20 years later ? We have a Lily here who could have been one of the witnesses - might be worth seeing if we can find her birth to see if she was Lilian Adline, and also parents marriage to see if father was Albert Edward

Elaine, Witnesses were Florence Annie Haycock and Lillian Adline Cole Mark