Genealogy Chat

I too think ancestry is wrong it should be 1877 as he died about 1951 so would have been an impossible age! cant work out why I cant see him om 1891 though, this is bugging me!!!!! Ta for help! cazxxx

The 1901 image does look like age 64 to me. I found it hard to believe but had a good look. Still can't find him in 1891 though. Anne

maybe you should invest in this- it will tell you his age and his fathers name Thomas Graham 1898 Jan-Feb-Mar Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland Hannah Redhead 1898 Jan-Feb-Mar Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland Name: Thomas Graham Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 871

Jess, The official census says 1877. Must be the Ancestry transcription. Rose

Geeeeeeeezzz, according to 1901 census you are MILES out with his birth year!! Hannah Graham Thomas abt 1879 Workington, Cumberland, England Wife Workington Cumberland Isabella Ann Graham Thomas, Hannah abt 1898 Workington, Cumberland, England Daughter Workington Cumberland Thomas Graham Hannah abt 1837 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England Head Workington Cumberland there is a SARAH REDHEAD there too -sister in law

No Rose thats where I cant find him! I need help cos my time is so limited, Ta muchly, Cazxxx

I get it now. Do you have him in 1891? Rose

Rose they are my great grandparents and Isabella was my nana, when I was trying to find Thomas Graham I looked at this census and went back to Barrow but cant find his birth only mention on 1881 census with Boyd's as his parents, cazx

Rose, like me, you misread the reply - i think it was aimed at Patricia, i dont think that was her name jess

There are no births for a Patricia Graham. There's a Thomas in 1901 b 1877 with wife Hannah and daughter Isabella Ann. Rose

A little word of caution here! Graham is a VERY common name in Cumbria (Cumberland/Westmorland/Furness). I think you should try and work carefully backwards from your Nana's birth to her father's marriage and then his birth. It would be so easy to get the wrong one. All the places mentioned so far on this thread are quite a long way from each other in this vast area! Anne

so have you found patricia in 1901 census? Patricia Graham, born where?<< sorry, completely mis-read that ! What was the name of his eldest child and have you found him and her in 1901 census

Caz, Are you sure you have the right Thomas? Where is he in 1901 etc? You should start with his marriage cert to be sure. Rose

Patricia his eldest child, my nana was born in 1898 so 1877 would be about right, cazx

Thankyou both! just going over your info, got kicked off puter by kids! cazxxxx

You asked about getting birth certs. There are two main sources for birth certs (assuming you want to come out of the transaction with both arms and legs ;-) ) 1] The Local RO - the Register Office for the area where the event happened. They have their own refs and some are very amenable to genealogy requests, some are not. In any event, the cert shouldn't cost more than £7 if you can supply the correct reference as well as the name, year of event, and an approximate place Some Local ROs have their own searchable BMD sites - there's a list of them on www.ukbmd.org.uk 2] The GRO - which ''harvests'' Local RO records each quarter. They also have a website from which you can order direct or you can phone or write. Their refs are different from the Local refs. If you look on their site it will explain the fees (basic is £7). http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ If you are happy to throw your money away, then you go via one of the other helpful sites which offer to get the cert for you - but charge upwards of £30 for the privilege! Christine

Jess has beaten me to it! I found the same info on Ancestry. Maybe mother was married before? or as Jess says, Thomas was illegitimate. Sounds like you've got your man, anyway. Well done, Jess. Patricia

did he have a middle name ? just hang onto this for a mo from the IGI THOMAS NICHOLSON GRAHAM Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 19 APR 1874 Millom, Cumberland, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM GRAHAM Family Mother: ANNE ============================================ Thomas <Graham> Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 06 JUN 1874 Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: George Graham Family Mother: Mary ===============================================

Caz Did you see my updated message? I can't find any trace of him in 1877. How do you know that was his year of birth? Patricia

None yet Jess have just started on him, cazx