Genealogy Chat

Christine, sorry been off on holiday, thanks for all the tips, I'll check them out. Cheers Matthew

Nudge, in case Matthew's lost his thread. Christine

Alternative source for marriage cert - via Kent RO Name: MILLER, Joseph, , Year of Marriage: 1839 Entry Number: 59 Register: T/34/1 Location: THANET AND DOVER Name: DENNE, Harriet, , Year of Marriage: 1839 Entry Number: 59 Register: T/34/1 Location: THANET AND DOVER PS - this confirms that the match of names, out of the set available, is justified.

Sorry - got a bit carried away again. I hope I haven't spoiled your fun. Besides - I could be running off on a plausible, but completely wrong track, and you won't know until you verify it for yourself. Christine

there's also this marriage: Name: Joseph Miller Year of Registration: 1839 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Thanet County: Kent Volume: 5 Page: 527 for which one of the brides is... Harriet DENNE Christine

This is that family in 1861: Name: Joseph Miller (boatman) Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Harriott Gender: Male Where born: Reading; Street, Kent, England Civil parish: Thanet St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Broadstairs RG9; Piece: 538; Folio: 154; Page: 20 Household Members: Name Age Rachel Honnor 8 Harriott Miller 48 John P Miller 15 Joseph Miller 48 Matilda A Miller 20 Now there's an intriguing thing here... Name: Joseph William * Miller Year of Registration: 1842 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Thanet County: Kent Volume: 5 Page: 471 If you look at the image - I reckon the difficult to read name that's been replaced by a * is actually ''HONNOR''. Christine

That 1861 family appears in 1851 (with wonderfully garbled transcription of ''Jethro''!), but there's a mariner & family, which seems more promising... Name: William Miller Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Harriet Gender: Male Where born: St Peters, Kent, England Civil parish: Thanet St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Broadstairs HO107; Piece: 1630; Folio: 86; Page: 8 Household Members: Name Age Harriet Miller 37 Jethra Miller 5 Joseph Miller 37 (Mariner) Joseph Miller 9 Matilda Miller 10 William Miller 7 They live next door to a victualler.

This is possibly William in 1861 (but I've gone off this one after looking in 1851): Name: William Miller Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's name: Jethro Mother's name: Susanna Gender: Male Where born: St Peters Isle of Tham (s.b. ''Than'', short for ''Thanet''), Kent, England Civil parish: Charlton Ecclesiastical parish: Charlton St Peter Town: Dover RG9; Piece: 545; Folio: 83; Page: 11 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Miller 15 Jethro Miller 52 (labourer) Jethro S Miller 11 John T Miller 13 Rebecca E Miller 9 Susanna Miller 50 William Miller 20 (bricklayer - not exactly a ''wine coster'', as in 1871!)

This is the 2-year old on 1871? - who's 12 in 1881. JOSEPH WILLIAM MILLER Father: WILLIAM DENN MILLER Mother: GEORGINA MARY Birth: 10 DEC 1868 Christening: 29 MAR 1869 Old Church, Saint Pancras batch: J045631 Christine

That marriage is on the IGI... WILLIAM DENNE MILLER Spouse: GEORGINA MARY BEALE Family Marriage: 02 MAR 1868 All Souls, Saint Marylebone batch: M053911 Christine

That marriage looks just about in time for the first child - aged 2 in 1871. The image shows his name as WIlliam Denne MILLER - but it's a printed page, so an old GRO transcription. Christine

Is this the wedding? Marriages Mar 1868 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bailey John Marylebone 1a 649 BEALE Georgina Mary Marylebone 1a 649 Jupp Hannah Marylebone 1a 649 Miller William Dennes? Marylebone 1a 649 Jim

hiya, i would think they married sometime after 1886, but before 1871 cen, ideally just before 1st child born, if you can get a birth cert for one of children, this will give you maiden name, and then you can get a marriage cert then either parents birth certs, HTH Julie

hiya, this them then?? 1881 Name: Georgina Miller Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where Born: (City), Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 3 Polygon Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Pancras Sub registration district: Somers Town ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Georgina Miller 35 Harriet Miller 9 Joseph Miller 12 Walter Miller 7 William Miller 37 julie

hiya she could've been put down as george or gina or even geo, do you have her birth cert?? julie

Thanks Christine

They're transcribed as MILER in 1871 on Ancestry. Image is clearly MILLER Christine

Find her marriage and then find her under her maiden name on previous censuses. nell

And of course the enumerator's spelling or writing may be a bit iffy. J

My ancestor was Eliza Louisa and on all official documents she used this name but in all the census she is Louisa. Perhaps if you look on IGI baptisms you may get her middle name and check if she used that. Good luck Irene