Genealogy Chat

Hi Christine Sorry I havent replied sooner, got carried away last night with them all LOL Richard Millership b1830 married Hannah Reeves in September 1848. I know Richard and Hannah moved to Liverpool and thats were they both died, Richard b1830 was a Coal Merchant, Once again many many thanks for all your help. Best Wishes Yvonne

The likely Richard Millership in 1891 has wife, Hannah, which seem to go with this GRO record: Name: Richard Millership Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 603 Where this is one of the possible wives: Hannah Edmunds Children: George (25) and William (21) Christine

Any of your Millership ancestors play footie? Found this on the multi-search of National Archives: *** PHOTOGRAPHS RELATED TO FOOTBALL CLUBS Creator(s): Montgomery, Mr, fl 1983, of Manchester FILE - Team picture of Rochdale A.F.C., Season 1916-1917. Standing, left to right: A. Hoyle, M. Tierney, P. O'Connell, W. Biggar, ***H. Millership, D. Crossam, J. Henderson. Seated, left to right: A. Rawlings, A. Walker, R. Thomas, W. Halligan, A. Smith. - ref. 2056/114 - date: 1916-1917 Scope and Content Negative Sheet Number 2/F15/9 *** Christine

I've found some other IGI records for children of Richard & Emma Millership - but you'll need to do your own verifying, because they aren't Church batches - they're ''submissions'' (and all seem to be separate ones, too)... JOHN MILES MILLERCHIP (sic) Birth: 27 FEB 1846 Oldbury, Worcester JANE MILLERSHIP Birth: 12 APR 1848 West Bromwich, Stafford JOSEPH MILLERSHIP Birth: 30 JUL 1855 Christening: 12 AUG 1855 Rounds Green Primitive Methodists Church, Oldbury, HENRY MILLERSHIP Christening: 09 APR 1861 Rounds Green Primitive Methodists Church, Oldbury ALICE MILLERSHIP (this one's in twice) Birth: MAR 1864 West Bromwich, Stafford Sarah Ann MILLERSHIP Birth: JUN 1873 West Bromwich, Stafford Some of them, at least, look very promising. Christine

LOOK WHAT I FOUND! (Perhaps you had this already?) RICHARD MILLERSHIP Marriages: Spouse: EMMA SMALLMAN Marriage: 16 JUN 1834 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England Batch M010241 Christine

This looks promising for Richard & Eliza (there's a R & ELizabeth , but not until 1855): West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1847 Surname Forename(s) ~Surname Forename(s) ~Church / Register Office ~Registers At ~Reference MILLERSHIP Richard ~PLANT Eliza ~West Bromwich, All Saints ~Sandwell ~22/4/134 But I notice: West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1848 MILLERSHIP Richard ~PALMER Jane ~West Bromwich, Christ Church ~Sandwell ~23/2/164 ?Richard Senr? Christine

If Richard-1830 is your g-g-father, whom did he marry? There's this couple + son in 1851: HO107/2024 Fo 476, p 39 Richard Milershp abt 1827 Oldby, Worcestershire, England Head Oldbury Eliza Millershp abt 1829 Hordy Heath, Staffordshire, England Wife Oldbury Samuel Millershp abt 1848 Oldby, Worcestershire, England Son Oldbury Christine (I'll put in a mistranscription report for Richard)

Maybe your Richard had already left home by 1851? If Richd snr had married again, He'd have no qualms about naming a new son after himself, I bet! there's this death record: Name: Agnes Jane Millership Year of Registration: 1858 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 431 Could be 1851's Jane? (Can't tell without an age) Christine

In the 1881 Census the enumerator probably simply made a mistake with the name when he was transfering the information from the schedule to the book. (I have a similar instance) It has Richard and Emma again in 1891. Jennifer

Thanks Christine Ive wrote that information down and hopefully it should fit in with them, what I family! Im fed up with them now LOL, like my Harrisons another big big headache, dread doing them LOL. Many thanks for all your information, much appreciated. Best wishes Yvonne

I notice there are deaths in 1891q4 for Richard (77) and John Millership (50) - ages would be a bit approximate. Both W Brom - 6b 498 and 495, respectively. (Note that these are the printed indexes, not typed or handwritten. I think some of these pages are relatively modern transcriptions of older indexes.) Christine

Hi Christine This is getting really complicated and Im pretty good at finding things LOL Yes I suppose they could be. But Ive just been on the 1851 census and it says Richard Millership b1819 which is obviously my Richard married to Jane b1826! with one sone Richard b1850, now I know for sure that Richard b1850 wasnt born then he was born 1830 cos he is my Great great grandfather. I think he old Dickie b1819 was up to someting myself could he have been carrying on. mind boggles. Yvonne

The older Sarah disappears from the list between 1871-1881, as does John. Assuming they didn't didn't die (deaths are indexed so far on the site only until 1848, for Oldbury), here are some possible marriages: Surname Forename(s) ~Surname Forename(s) ~Church / Register Office ~Registers At ~Reference West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874 MILLERSHIP Sarah ~GRICE James ~Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) ~Sandwell ~39/12/485 West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1880 MILLERSHIP John ~BENTLEY Charlotte ~Tipton, St Mark ~Sandwell ~38/3/228 Christine

Do you think that the youngest ones might actually be children of the daughter(s)?? Christine

Here are some other likely(ish) birth registrations from ... Surname Forename(s) ~Sub-District ~Registers At ~Reference West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1861 MILLERSHIP Henry Oldbury Sandwell OLD/29/149 West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1864 MILLERSHIP Alice Oldbury Sandwell OLD/34/22 ?? West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1859 MILLERSHIP Joseph West Bromwich North East Sandwell WBNE/30/370 or ?? West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1854 MILLERSHIP Joseph C West Bromwich North East Sandwell WBNE/21/268 ?? West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1849 MILLERSHIP Jane West Bromwich South West Sandwell WBSW/15/186 Christine

Hi Christine Thats makes Emma/Mary 59 when she had Sarah Ann, I suppose it was possible then, cos it seems all my ancestors had hundereds of kids. Many thanks Best Wishes Yvonne

Hi Julie Many thanks for your information, Right I think Emma was nicknamed Mary perhaps as she got older. it is obvious that Emma lived to a ripe old age. To you and Elaine many thanks for your help its very kind of you. Ill send for some certificates I think. Problem nearly solved. Best Wishes Yvonne

This looks like the Sarah Ann birth on W Midlands BMD: West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1873 Surname Forename(s) ~Sub-District ~Registers At ~Reference MILLERSHIP Sarah A ~Oldbury ~Sandwell ~OLD/49/264 Christine

Name: Emma Millership Birth Date: abt 1815 Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 80 District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 486 (click to see others on page) Name: Mary Ann Millership Birth Date: abt 1821 Year of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 60 District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 499 (click to see others on page) think you need to find a marriage or any more census Julie

Do you mean Emma and Mary their dates are similar, now I was thinking of that, perhaps she was called Mary as a nickname. Could be, youve got me thinking now. Thanks for looking for me its much appreciated. Regards Yvonne