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I have been trying to trace the life of my relative John Kirby. He was born c 1834 in Lambeth, London. I have found him in the 1851 census with parents and siblings. Then found his marriage to Louisa Celuta in Lambeth in 1854. Next found them both in 1861 census, living in Lambeth and with no children. Found them again in 1881 census living in Gravesend, Kent and with no children. Try as I might, I cannot find them in the 1871 census. I was really hoping to find them with a family. I may have found Louisa’s death in Gravesend in 1888. Tomorrow will be certs ordering day for me. Two things really – can anyone please find them in the 1871 census please??? Also, Celuta is an unusual name, but I can only find one other – a death for Rosa Celuta (b1804) in 1870 in Lambeth. Could this be Louisa’s mother? I am exhausted now and will shortly go to bed after hours of searching. But honestly, any info would really help and be much appreciated. TGx

Is the name Italian?

Hi Heather, I couldn't resist popping back after my shower! I honestly don't know if the name is Italian - but it does sound it doesn't it. I no more than that - but would love to. Ygx

1861 Name: Rosa Calula Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relation: Lodger Where born: France Civil parish: Lambeth St Mary County/Island: Surrey Country: England Source information: RG9/351 Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church First ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 156 Page: 16 Household schedule number: 118 GSU Number: 542620 Rosa is shown as a widow Just wondering if this is the lady that matches the death in 1870 Maureen

Is this Rosa in 1861? Rosa Calula abt 1806 France Lodger Lambeth St Mary Surrey Reg

Oh Glitter baby, this is the second time you have amazed me! As I said, I have Rosa Celuta born c 1804, but we both know what can happen in time and transcription. So my Lousia could be French! How did you do that? And thank you. TGx

Thanks to you too Reggie. TGx

1881 John Kirby abt 1834 Lambeth, Surrey, England Lodger Louisa Kirby abt 1835 Fitzroy Square, Middlesex, England Lodger Wife Occupation of shoemaker 1861 John Kirby abt 1834 Lambeth, Surrey, England Lodger Louisa Kirby abt 1841 Paunds London, Surrey, England Wife Occupation of artist If this is the couple then I can not find them in 1871 Louisa - age varies a bit - and no idea what the place of birth is supposed to be on the 1861 census Maureen

Hi Maureen, Yes this is my couple. I so much want to find them on the 1871 census, but it is comforting to know that It is not 'just me'. How you found that Misper I do not know! I take my hat off to you. I am 'doing' my Lambeth Kirbys and it is slow work. So nice of you to help me. I will start again tomorrow. Kind regards TGx

You might find this entry interesting or I could be barking up the wrong tree 1841 Name: Louisa Celerte Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Gender: Female Where born: Foreign Parts Civil parish: St Marylebone Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Source information: HO107/676/1 Registration district: St Marylebone Sub-registration district: Cavendish Square ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 55 Page: 41 Line number: 19 GSU Number: 438792 Madam Celerte abt 1803 Foreign Parts Image could be Celute On 1851 there is a Louisa Catlet - that is the name on image - but can not find this on 1841 Maureen

Thank you Maureen. I have not yet got the hang of searching for mispers. Any advice on how to do this would be good! ! ! The info you have given me on Rosa and Louisa will now allow me to trawl on a bit further. Thanks again. TGx