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Slowly going mad!!! Some of you may remember this from whiles back and me praying for an unusual name for the father…yeah that so didn’t happen!! Here are the facts: Birth cert of Mary Elizabeth Reed born 1873 St Saviour Southwark Father William Henry Reed occupation brushmaker Mother Mary Elizabeth Reed late Young formerly Perkins (Born 1845 Southwark) Marriage Cert dated 1876 William Henry Reed occupation Timekeeper Father William Reed (Deceased) Mary Elizabeth Young Father George Perkins (Deceased) So they married three years after child was born. I know that by 1881 Mary was a widow living with her daughter in southwark Thing is I cant find William Henry Reed on the census at all and now I find his father is dead by 1876 as well…….Gawd where do I start??? I don’t even know which county to start looking in!! Managed to find Mary Elizabeth Perkins on the 1851 and 1861 even though didn’t have father’s occupation as he died in 1867. So much easier usually when they have middle names, not in the case of William Henry flipping Reed though!!! Suggestions gratefully received

When and where was Mary Perkins the mother born? Where did she and William Henry marry? How old was William Henry according to marriage cert?

Hi helen, Think I said on posting mother born in 1845. marriage between William Henry Reed and Mary Elizabeth young took place in southwark. Helen have been sitting here nearly all day, done brides side without too many probs, but flaming groom Grrrrrrr his age by the way is down as full

Just found a william and mary reed on the 1871 census in London says both born in london in 1843 census ref's RG10/286 folio 82 page 2, he is down as a coachman, previous occupations in 1873 (brushmaker) and 1876 (timekeeper) what puts me off of this is that Mary Reed also down as 1843 born in London, and I have her down previously as southwark and 1845. also doesn't bring me any further to william henry reeds father!! slowly pulling hair out!

People do have a habit of changing their minds about when and where they were born, don't they. nell

William Reeds born 1840s on the 1851 census in Surrey with dads called William: Part one: Newington Surrey William Reed abt 1801 Chelmsford, Essex, England Head Agnes Reed abt 1811 St Martins Rd, Middlesex, England Wife Agnes Reed abt 1835 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Daughter Elizabeth Reed abt 1845 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Emma Reed abt 1838 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Daughter James Reed abt 1850 Newington, Surrey, England Martha Reed abt 1848 Newington, Surrey, England Thomas Reed abt 1843 Blackfriars, Surrey, England William Reed abt 1841 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Son

So know the feeling nell, think it is all designed to make our lives as miserable as possible!! am giving up for today as son wants to kick me off and I have been saying just another 10 minutes for nearly an hour now!! dont feel as if I have got anywhere today, think this one branch that may not go back any further have no hope really without knowing where william henry reed was prior to being with mary, and there are millions of william reeds, why couldn't his father have been called Josiah, or ebenezer!! thanks for taking the time to pop back nell xx

Part 2 - poor little orphans, no mother or father, in Rotherhithe workhouse: James Reed abt 1845 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Inmate Phoebe Reed abt 1843 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Inmate William Reed abt 1842 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Inmate

Just seen what you put in nell, I too saw that one, but without knowing what william senior did how will I know they are mine, why cant they put the profession of the father in even when he has died, it would help eh?!!

Oh nell, Poor little mites!! wonder if this is my william, wish I could find him at home with his father william when he is a brushmaker, but the only brushmaking william I can find is in yorkshire and his father is not called William!! Ooooooooooooooooooh so frustrating. i have more brick walls than the nearly new housing estate at the moment!!

Am being kicked off the computer now, son actually dragging me off stool....Boo, will look in again tommorow, but beginning to think this may be a search that is hopeless. Would like to thank little nell for trying to help, thanks sweetie xx