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Help ME please! is 1861 pushing my luck...?

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Merry

Merry Report 27 Sep 2005 22:23

Have you got the 1861 now? (re thread heading?) Rob B Woodward aged 57 schoolmaster and brother of St John's Hospital.....plus family and students....... Merry PS - Did you get the attachments from the paper?

The Ego

The Ego Report 27 Sep 2005 19:34

Pmsl........ Hello Stuart Barnes here.....pause Me-yes? sorry ....who are you ?.... he said if I need to know anything else,would be happy to help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rofpmsl.......

The Bag

The Bag Report 27 Sep 2005 18:51

Stuart AKA Robert - only the current BL**dy headmaster! well, if thats all he told you , he dont know as much as me ! Good! jess x

The Ego

The Ego Report 27 Sep 2005 17:49

A very well spoken chap by the name of Stuart Barnes just phoned...............:-) Lord Overstone Colonel Rawlings = 2 prevoius incumbants. Was a school from 1955 but he suspects it was one at another time. Apparently there must be some sort of local early censi-1800-1851 that some local researcher has used. School was part of a manor,there were 3 manors in all,which is quite unusual.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Sep 2005 13:35

Well Jess, I think you ARE clever!!! You do plenty for a lot of people on here. I know what you mean though about work. I was a dinner nanny years ago and a lot of people (teachers, auxilliary workers and such) looked on us as if we were the lowest of the low in school, whereas I think looking after children is quite an important job. It was always good to be able to prove that you had a brain too. Kath. x

The Bag

The Bag Report 27 Sep 2005 13:27

Kathleen - My role at the school is very insignificant, and just sometimes you need to do 'something' to get yourself up there with the rest of them, that do know it all (and know it). This is something i have the ability to do, and do reasonably well (maybe i cant?) All gone a bit pear shaped really. maybe i shouldn't have even tried (not because of what you did Alter at all, please dont think you did anything wrong)... because like Kath says , all i was tying to do was look clever. jess x

The Ego

The Ego Report 27 Sep 2005 13:22

maddie methinks

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Sep 2005 13:19

Oh Jess, The last couple of replies had me in stitches!!! That's what you get for trying to look clever in front of your workmates!!!!!!! (Just had a thought....how on earth do you find time to work - you're on here most of the time?) lol Kath. x

The Bag

The Bag Report 27 Sep 2005 13:13

Mrs Barnes- (Gill)- I wonder who you spoke to sue- high pitched chirpy voice Maddie - Bit kinda silver spoon and articulate, Bit plum in the chops (but lovely), quite a deep voice or Emma

The Ego

The Ego Report 27 Sep 2005 13:06

she said she was going to ask a mrs barr or bass but she was having lunch with the children.She mentioned the possibility of some major or something that might have lived here. Shuffles off,red faced

The Bag

The Bag Report 27 Sep 2005 13:03

There was me, going to go inand impress them all with my knowledge of who what where when and why...and you hav e ruddy asked them! Who did you speak to - maddie emma or Sue? (could you sort of wiggle a bit and tell them you have you wires crossed and confused it with Houghton hall in norfolk....?)

The Ego

The Ego Report 27 Sep 2005 13:01

Pmsl........................ wetting myself.............. ffs...........!!

The Bag

The Bag Report 27 Sep 2005 12:57

Alter- My darling sweatheart of a friend- I work there, you pratt!!

The Ego

The Ego Report 27 Sep 2005 12:32

ive just phone the school secretary-she s going to phone back with the name of a family that were there-its always been called great houghton Hall,and I think they have early 1800's photos there. hows that for service.:-)))

The Bag

The Bag Report 27 Sep 2005 12:18

Thanks for that Peter - earlier census are my next stop along with a visit to the CRO. All helps with building the bigger picture, jess

Pete

Pete Report 27 Sep 2005 09:30

Have been back to the Historical Directories again. They have a Pigot 1841. In the Northampton section 'Nobility, Gentry and Clergy' there are just two entries where the address is shown as Great Houghton. GEORGE Mr John, Great Houghton WILLIAMS Rev Richard, Great Houghton So, if John George was not the vicar, he was either Noble or Gentry. As a MR we must assume that he was Gentry. Perhaps someone has access to the 1841 census and can check out Mr George. Pete

Merry

Merry Report 27 Sep 2005 08:06

Will do! (This afternoon) I don't know if I should have your email addy, but I don't, so could you send it to me please??!! Merry

The Bag

The Bag Report 27 Sep 2005 07:51

Merry, fascinating stuff! Barnes family still there- except Oswald that died 3 years ago, was their 50th year ths year so they must have bought it soon after the lady died, although do know it was boarded up for a few years. Kids at christmas - Yes that was the Barnes,i think, in their very early days it was a boarding school. I would LOVE those articles - can you either forward them, or tell me where to source them? brilliant! Thanks jess xx Kellys 1910 John Rawlings 'seat' GHH 1898 john Rawlings 1899 Mention of Stained glass window in church Dedicated to Lady Francis Elizabeth Spencer of GHH who died april 1884

Merry

Merry Report 27 Sep 2005 07:17

So, in conclusion........ 1861 - Woodward 1871 - Coales 1881 - Wales 1888 Richardson 1891 Sullivan 1901 Rawlins There's a few more bits in the paper (Times): 1918 - Lt-Col Rawlins died there 1920 - GHH up for sale. 14 beds, 12 acres 1955 - Advert to posh parents who are unable to have their children at Christmas (!!) - Send them to GHH to be cared for 1969 - Lt-Col Rawlins daughter dies aged 91. The notice says her dad was ''of GHH'' even though he's been dead 50 years and the house sold in 1920!! 1978 - Family named Barnes live there. Son marries from GHH In the unlikely event that you want copies of anything from the paper, let me know. I won't be around til this afternoon though...... Merry

Christine

Christine Report 27 Sep 2005 00:00

The head of that household is Rob B Woodward abt 1804 City, Hertfordshire, England Head Great Houghton Northamptonshire with Elizabeth Woodward abt 1808 Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire, England Wife Great Houghton Northamptonshire S B Woodward abt 1840 Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire and numerous others. The image says they live at Great Houghton House, and it must be a school, judging by the amount of scholars there, oh yes and an assistant master. It's 2 residences from the first entry, the toll gate house. Don't know if this helps at all Jess.