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Susan

Susan Report 16 Sep 2007 18:22

can any one help im banging my head against a brick wall.I have marriage and death certificates for my gt gfather walter daniel curtis.
I also have found him on board a vessel "The Blake" on the 1901 census.His place of birth says
LOndon Havingdon? Havington? Navingdon? its really difficult to read.. he is 27 at this time making him born 1874.
On his marriage certificate there is no fathers name or surname.
I also cannot find any trace of him on 1881 census
or find a birth reg ....its driving me nuts he obviously existed..the poor man died aged 38 in a lunatic asylum in lincoln having been there for 4yrs and 2months after an accident at sea which left him paralised

any help greatly appreciated

sue (grimsby lincs)

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 16 Sep 2007 18:27

Hillingdon?

I can't see him on the 1901 census - can you give us some details?

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 16 Sep 2007 18:33

There's one in Islington:

Births Dec 1873 (>99%)
Curtis Walter Frank Islington 1b 286

I also found this - I know he's no relation but thought you might appreciate the totally fabulous name!

1863 - CURTIS Walter Vandeleur Zaphnath-paaneah Norwich 4b 171

Jill

Susan

Susan Report 16 Sep 2007 18:50

I agree what a fab name makes my walter daniel sound a very dull chap

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Sep 2007 18:52

I must be looking in the wrong place but I can't find him on Ancestry in 1901 at all. Who did he marry and when? Do you know of any siblings at all?

Regards
Liz

Susan

Susan Report 16 Sep 2007 18:52

PRO ref RG 13/3089 page 82

hes the 2nd one down W D Curtis age 27 married mate london Havingdon?

its a list of officers crew and others on board ship or vessel on census night

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 16 Sep 2007 18:55

It's Newington.

Ancestry has mistranscribed his name as Curhis.

Susan

Susan Report 16 Sep 2007 18:56

he married an alice stead in nov 1900 in cleethorpes i dont no of any brothers or sisters no one seems to know

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Sep 2007 19:00

1891 census maybe

Name: Walter Curtis
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, London, England

Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Curtis 13
Clara Curtis 45
Horace Curtis 20
Richard Curtis 8
Robert Curtis 17
Thomas Curtis 48
Walter Curtis 12
William Curtis 15
James Willkins 60

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Alice in 1901

about Alice Curtis
Name: Alice Curtis
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Boston, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Clee
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Grimsby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Grimsby
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 210
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Curtis 29
Emma Stead 18

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Susan

Susan Report 16 Sep 2007 19:10

sorry about previous reply got confused ,so its newington is it , i wonder why i cant find him in births or on 1881 census and does no fathers name mean the inevitable,ive found a walter curtis on 1881 census with a lot of siblings in a workhouse wonder if thats him

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 16 Sep 2007 19:13

There is a Walter F Curtis born in Newington in 1875 who appears on the '81 and '91 but you say his middle name was Daniel.

Susan

Susan Report 16 Sep 2007 19:14

gosh thanks "alviegal" that could be him ill check it out but its difficult with no fathers name on marriage cert isnt it

Susan

Susan Report 16 Sep 2007 19:15

yes definately it appears on his marriage cert and death cert as walter daniel