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Brick wall - any advice please?

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gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 13:07

Hi
I am now at the wall with my line and wondered of anyone had any advice as to where I go now.
I can't confirm a DOB for 1767 and know that this person married twice. His second wife died in 1855 and what I'm wondering is what info would be on the death cert when I send for it. Would it just say 'widow of .....'. I have tried parish registers but no luck for Richmond, Surrey.
The person in question, Richard Stanford turned out to be a head shepherd for George 3rd at Oatlands Kew late 1700 into 1800. He died Jun 1937 so can't get a death cert for him.
Thanks in anticipation
Di

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 13:26

Hi and Thanks for responding. Wouldn't I need a GRO Ref for a death cert for him and if so I haven't found one.
Di

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Nov 2007 13:26

I think the death was 1837.....not 1937!!!!!

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Nov 2007 13:27

The wife's death cert would only say 'widow of'........and would not add to your knowledge.

Reg

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 13:30

Reggie
LOL. Thanks though. I thought my luck had changed. Yep 1837 not 1937.
Di

♥Athena

♥Athena Report 22 Nov 2007 13:32

Have you already checked out this death cert?

Name: Richard Stanford
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 4
Page: 231

It's the only one for Richard Stanford in 1837.

Athena

Pete

Pete Report 22 Nov 2007 13:37

Richard's death is listed in the NBI

Name Richard STANFORD
Date 1 Jun 1837
Aged 72
Place Richmond
Description St Mary Magdalene
Denomination Anglican
County code SRY

It's really inconsiderate of our ancestors to die before censuses or civil registration. I have one who did just this too.

Pete

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 13:38


Jolly Sailor and Athena. Thanks.
I don't think the 1837 one is mine but will send for the cert anyway and also his 2nd wife Susannah.
Am I right in thinking her death cert will give her maiden name or is that wishful thinking.
Di

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 13:40

Pete
Sorry I was busy typing last post. You're right of course, but that's families for you.!! Thanks for the confirmation of his death.
Di

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 13:46

Pete, just a thought. Would you be able to see if his first wife Elizabeth is on the NBI for me as I think he remarried early 1800. Richard married Elizabeth in 1790? in Richmond..and then went on to marry Susannah but I have no other details. Richard had 6 children with Elizabeth the last one being born in 1806.
Thanks
Di

Pete

Pete Report 22 Nov 2007 13:54

Name Elizabeth STANFORD
Date 7 Jul 1811
Aged 44
Place Richmond
Description St Mary Magdalene
Denomination Anglican
County code SRY

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 13:57

Pete thank you so much. I now have something to go on as I can look for the second marriage.
Di

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 22 Nov 2007 14:57

Found this submitted entry on familysearch, youb might already have it?

Richard STANFORD (AFN: 2223-4BK) )
Birth: 1802

Christening: 8 Sep 1802
Richmond, Surrey, England
Death: 25 Nov 1872
Queens Dairy, Richmond, Surrey, England

Father: Richard STANFORD (AFN: 2223-4VV) Family
Mother: Elizabeth (AFN: 2223-4W3)



Marriage(s)
Spouse: Ann EVERETT (AFN: 2223-4CR) Family
Marriage: 13 Jul 1826
St Mary's, Richmond, Surrey, England

Selena

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Nov 2007 15:47

Hi Selena
Thank you for posting. I do have this info thank you. It's his parents I'm really interested in.
Di