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my own son has not done physical exercise for many years and he is grossly under weight the fault of course is my own bof course as it is blatently obvious to his tormentors (and let me add at this point are mainly adults) I must obviously neglect him and not feed him enough. Quite the contrary he eats like and horse but his disabilty stops him from moving around freely or putting weight on. By condemning every parent with an over weight child you are also condemning every parent with an under weight child ~ it works both ways!

my son isnt overweight but refuses to eat fruit n veg, he was weaned on ithem,but 2 year ago went of most foods, its hard to find things he will eat altho he does like grapes n strawberrys, so i buy then all the time even out of season when there very expensive,

hes fit n healthy so is my brother who has never ate fruit of veg ever, but is 33, 6 foot tall and very well built, "he trains in the gym" its never harmed him not having fruit n veg, so i dont worry about littleman as long as he is healthy

i must add he would rather play out with his freinds than play on his consoles,

just as an afterthought, if the boy has put on a lot of weight in one go,

...if his parents didn't worry about what food he ate or what he did during the holidays then that would have shown year on year surely, bad diet and exercise habits would have shown up in the previous 11 years not just the 6 weeks holiday.

maybe they have had rather too many barbecues or family parties/holidays this year .... or maybe one of the other reasons applies in this case.

good point Rose and as a matter of note its amazing how quickley we can pile the pounds on once our metabolism allows for it.

OK - I accept everyone's views. There are certainly some points there that I can accept that I was wrong. For those I apologise. I changed the title of the thread because it appeared to be upsetting some people. It was not my intention to upset anyone.

As for putting it all over the internet - I haven't mentioned any names at all. Neither my friend's nor this boy's. I haven't even mentioned where I live apart from near a beach and in a small vilage and there are lots of beaches and small villages in the UK. So I don't accept that any specific child has been hurt by my comments.

I still stand by my comments that computer games and unhealthy food does not add up to a healthy lifestyle (that was my point - not fat or thin, over or underweight) and parents should take responsibility for that.

i take the point that what I heard was third hand and more than likely schoolgate gossip but, as I said before, it was something said to just myself and OH - no children were present. And yes, this friend has a child the same age who is a healthy lad.

Ice, please share how you cooked roast dinners with no money , would love to know .

Ice - I never said you were a bad parent. It sounds like you are doing a grand job. But, there are parents that don't seem to care what happens to their kids. I apologised for rushing to judgement - I can do no more than that. I apologised for my original title and put that right (hopefully).

Unfortunately I have seen so much over the past few weeks that I was beginning to despair of the future generation. At least by the sounds of this thread it is not all going bad.

Amy my mother struggled much as i suspect many do on barely any money and with a sick unemployed husband, scraping to put food in my stomach even if she went without herself....

as it is, meat and potatoes and veg for a 'roast' are probably less expensive now in real terms than when I was a kid... certainly the price of meat has dropped relative to income ( where other foods have increased) .

I imagine that when Ice talks about cooking a decent meal for her kids ( and by extension the effort of keeping a roof over their heads, clothes etc ) she means that doing so left little money for other things especially herself, but that is what decent mums do isn't it, put their kids first?

Amy, please get a life and stop sniping at others.
Its not necessary.

My mother did the same thing for me.

I remember my mother having to borrow money from my piggy-bank because she didn't have any for food at the end of the week (it was always paid back). She would go without herself so my brother and myself were fed.

I fully understand how a meal can be made with no money.

Thanks Ice so you did have money to buy the food , even if it came from pawning goods ,Ihave a life ty Catherine , but trot that one out if you must lol.

A quick story:-

When my mother died my cousin and I were exchanging loving stories about her. She told me that her most treasured memory of my mum was the meals she used to provide. If someone was in our house at lunchtime they were always invited for lunch even if there was very little to give them. My cousin remembered once being given a dessert of half a banana and custard because that's all that was available. We were both crying at the memory because it was so like my mum.

Uzzi
It hurts when people dont know the facts.
My son was 2 years old but due to his health problems he looked like a 8 month old at the most,me and my partner was having a bite to eat in the city centre and I gave my son a few crisps.
2 women passing made a comment....
"Parents these days dont have a clue,feeding a baby crisps"
I couldnt hold my tongue and told them about his health problems and how old he was.

Don't rise to her Ice...please let me do it ! :))

I've replied to your pm Ice. Thanks

Although I made a comment earlier in the thread I really don't believe that Beverley made anything other than a comment about childhood obesity. Much of what Beverley has said is correct - we are a society of overweight adults and children. You don't often see children running around at the park or riding around the streets on bikes. Children do sit indoors more often and play their games. This is not necessarily a sign of bad parenting just the changes in society. After all most of our ancestors were working by the time they were 12 - I wouldn't want to go back to those days.

I think what annoyed me was the assumption that this child had put on weight through over-eating and laziness when there may have been other reasons - not excuses.

I really don't think we should be jumping on Beverley and accusing her of gossiping or being nasty when she has only made a simple comment which could've been disputed in a sensible discussion.

S x

Thanks Sue - I didn't feel 'jumped upon'. I said some things which were wrong and I apologised for them. It has been an interesting discussion.

I didn't think you were being harsh, Claire. You made some interesting comments and I agreed with a lot of what you said. I just wanted to say that I thought there was nothing malicious about what Beverley said - it was a simple comment on how she felt about childhood obesity. We should be able to discuss issues in society openly.

S x

Beverley my apologies if you thought I may be getting at you. Equally I really do not think you have to be apologising for airing an opinion. The interesting thing about this thread although I initially had reservations is that everyone has been able to put their point of view across without too much bother. I hold my hand up to the fact that seldom do I listen to advice on here, yet today I have been stregnthed in the knowledge that the advice very often given is well worth listening to. Rest assured whatever the circumstances surrounding this child and indeed so many like him (for varying reason) the chances are he is in the right hands. As for Amy I'm not sure what triggers her I feel for you Amy ~ I met Ice and her partner a long time ago I know she is happy but things are not always easy. We all have known hardship in one form or other and to question that makes me think you are not a caring person. I do hope you find your way on the boards Amy.

Footie - yes, I agree. It is possible to have a debate and disagree with others without being spiteful or nasty.

No offence was taken by anybody.