General Chat

where two female teachers had suffered injuries - one had a broken leg and dislocated knee the other facial injuries - both aged around 50. The perpetrator - a boy aged 10.

I do hope action is taken against him. So hard to understand how a child of that age can be so vicious. He must be big for his age if two teachers failed to restrain him. Mind you I suppose if they had his parents would have sued them. Was this in UK? didn't see it in todays paper.

It was in Daily Mxxl and on ceefax - was No.115 at lunchtime. And yes here in UK

That little boy will be full of anger for some reason.

I very much hope action is not taken against him, he has probably had far too much in his life. I hope they find out what is wrong in his life.

Without condoning violence I do wonder if this boy has 'special needs'?
He doesn't need punishable action he needs help.
Rather close to home for me.

I believe it was a London school.

I found it worrying that a 10 yr old could be capable of inflicting such injuries and why the rage/anger?

haven't read the article but something has to be done to prevent this sort of thing in schools which is why I said I hoped action would be taken. It is one reason we are losing so many teachers. The action that should be taken is appropriate help, not necessarily punishment but it may be that he needs placing in a place of safety where he can get help. I wonder if this is a one off offence by him. It could have been another child he hurt.

Mostly these ferral children get TOO MUCH *help* and are made to believe they are above the rules that others have to follow.

Unpopular opinion I'm sure but there you go. x

I can't be certain that it is the right school as there are several in close proximity, but the one in the road mentioned is for pupils who are statemented and have SEN and are not able to attend mainstream schools...

Blame the parents and the do-gooders no disipline these days ,I'm sure most people of my age will agree

The fact they are ferral would indicate something amiss with their family life.

Thay would probably love a bit of structure and discipline in their lives.

Wouldn't disagree Sharron. But often the help they're given just makes them feel more entitled.

This is speaking as a mother whose child was quite badly hurt by one of these kids...and not one thing was done about it...even when he did the same to another child the next week because he had *anger management issues* seems to me in lots of cases its carte blance for them to just beat their chests and do as they please because they know their behaviour is excused and there are no consequences for their behaviour. x...

i agree with you muffy.
some kids(we have lots around here)are left to run wild while their parents are down the pub,dont go to school,would rather tell you to f--- off than be polite,smoke and drink..and all the parents say is"i cant control them.and the police do nothing..x

I used to work with children like that and, yes, they are very unhappy with (in many cases) the most dreadful home lives.

However, a desperate home life is no excuse for violence (although it is a reason) and we do such children no favours by pretending it is.

Yes, they need sympathetic adults to talk to and to help them through their problems and to deal with what has happened to them in the past. But those of us who work with them are entitled to expect protection and to be safe at work. The children need to learn that actions have consequences they will not like.

Gwynne

Kids like that need to be taught a hard lesson, they know right from wrong and will continue to do as they please until clamped down on.

All this no punishment, sit on the naughty step and the poor little mites should be sent on a holiday which will make them behave, my arse...they need correcting.

Some kids are just bad the same as some adults are just evil.
Also some of the parents of these kids are just as bad...dross.

George

When I read/hear of similar cases of abuse by children to teachers I have often asked my husband did he ever recall such things in his schooldays or in our children's schooldays. We never came across anything like this. Whilst some cases may well be down to lack of discipline and no respect - others cannot.

Are they caused by bad diet/additives in food etc? I do simply do not know and I do pity the teaching staff whose hands are tied even with regards to simply picking up a crying child and comforting it when it has fallen.

Will these two ladies return to teaching when they recover or take early retirement?

Are some difficult children pumped full of mediciene which in its turn causes more problems?

The only way to teach them right from wrong is to belt (slap) them, it taught me and others ,and I was only scrumping

Well my OH was caught scrumping in a neighbours orchard (apples sweeter than his dad's) however his father clouted him and when he asked why
he was told 'I did not clout you for scrumping old man Green's apples - I clouted you for being caught'.

Now OH's father was the village Postmaster so really quite respectable!!!

OH often relates this tale to all and sundry. He was also an only child and swears not spoilt.

Stan, they have often been victims of - and also seen - a great deal of violence at home and that is sometimes why they are as they are.

There were always children like that, Chris, but schools turned a blind eye when they didn't attend, they were pleased to be rid of them.

I can remember a lad in my class when I was in the juniors whose behaviour was very strange and he could become violent for no apparent reason that we could see.

He was expelled from secondary school and left to run wild and has been in and out of prison all his life.

Gwynne

Don't think some of these puter games help ,it's all fighting and killing