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Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 29 Aug 2014 22:48

one of my sons started work at 16 at 17 and half he was unemployed, of he went to job centre and because of his age they said he couldn't claim. When I pointed out he had worked for 18mths so why wasn't he entitiled they decided he was entitled. six mths on job seekers and luckily he has been employed for8 yrs now.

We had never heard of pension credit and when OH was 60 we both had part time jobs and we use to get our money topped up with it. It was a neighbour that told us about it.

My sons g/f has applied for her maternity money as her work refuses to pay her. and that has taken 6 weeks because they keep loosing bits of the paperwork. I'm sure baby will be here before she gets any money.

I also think that I am ok with form filling but claiming is difficult.

Anne

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 29 Aug 2014 20:42

now you are talking common sense,

which is not allowed.......

Sharron

Sharron Report 29 Aug 2014 19:41

We are reasonably intelligent with a smattering of education and we are finding claiming very difficult,

Isn't the benefit system supposed to be to support people who are at a disadvantage?

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Aug 2014 19:22

As one of the more friendly job centre staff told me a few years ago 'If you don't know to ask about such and such benefit, we're not allowed to tell you that you might be entitled to it" .

The forms are designed by sadists and come with a built in guarantee you can't 'get it right' , go in and see an advisor and tell them you don't understand what is required and ask them to help... you are their 'client' they are obliged to do so.


Sharron

Sharron Report 29 Aug 2014 18:56

It is because one of the zero hours merchants that OH worked for (try to keep off claiming benefits) insisted that he should be self- employed.

Naturally he had only a couple of hours of work from them but the DWP have decided that he will be spending a number of hours trying to rustle up work for his business which will prevent him from looking for work.

Not being familiar with the system, I last claimed in 1991 and OH had never claimed before last year, the forms were evidently not filled in in the appropriate manner.

When I became a carer there were numerous people helping me to claim..

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Aug 2014 18:50

Go to the CAB Sharron, and ask them to review the decision, make sure you the DSS give you a reason for their closing the claim.

How about self employment? you may not be entitled to benefits as such , but if you can go self employed you should get working tax credits.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 29 Aug 2014 17:10

B*mmer :-(

Sharron

Sharron Report 29 Aug 2014 17:07

It's not too hard for them.

They have decided that we are not entitled to anything and have closed the claim.

wisechild

wisechild Report 29 Aug 2014 15:43

When I first got divorced & was on my own with my 2 children, I claimed benefit.
Then I found a temporary job for 3 months.
Unfortunately it was monthly paid, so I carried on claiming for the first month until I got paid, but didn´t claim again until a month after the end of the contract (because I had been paid a months salary.)
I was taken to a tribunal because I had claimed benefit while I was working.
I pointed out that we had no means of financial support for the first month & I hadn´t claimed for a month after the contract finished.
Grudgingly, the panel agreed that I had not made a false claim.
What was I supposed to do?
Tell the kids they can´t eat for 4 weeks, but at the end of the job, they can eat double for 4 weeks.
Some of the rules are so stupid.

Merlin

Merlin Report 29 Aug 2014 13:52

Steady on Sharron, Its hard work doing Bugger all Think of the old song, We,re Busy Doing Nothing woking the whole day through trying to find lots of things not to do,and that about sums it up. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Sharron

Sharron Report 29 Aug 2014 10:21

I am coping because I was prepared.

Please don't think I am asking for sympathy, I am just pointing out their bloody ineptitude!

We certainly won't starve, in fact we are eating pretty well, but we will only be eating at home.

There is, of course, a certain sum of money, collected by some really good friends to whom I am forever grateful, that is totally sacrosanct and the DWP will not be parting me from that, but thre is more oney somewhere in the system which is mine by right and I am not happy at being kept apart from it because we are trying not to need it.

Had we gone into the jobby with no income from employment and no money put by to support ourselves in times of need, we would have had all our rent paid and our full entitlement within a fortnight.

I worked in the expectation of drawing my pension at sixty and now, at sixty one, having been a carer for seven years, I am expected to devote myself to looking for a job to do for fourteen months. To do this I am expected to attend a building full of staff doing bugger all every fortnight and to show them evidenec of what I have done to find a job whilst waiting for the money they are getting round to paying me!

Now you've started me!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 29 Aug 2014 09:47

If you are due to pay utility bills, could you apply for an emergency loan?

If your hours and pay varies from week to week, it must be difficult to work out what you are entitled to. Trust you not to 'fit into a box'!

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 29 Aug 2014 08:29

In order to qualify for tax credits both in a couple must work and one for a minimum of 32 hrs the other 16. Where one in a couple is disabled the qual hours are 16. Applications can be made online or by post.

RockyMountainShy

RockyMountainShy Report 28 Aug 2014 23:07

Hey, Good luck Sharron

Dad is still waiting to hear about his hearing aid, and he applied at least two months ago. Government agencies are verrrrrrry slow.

Sharron

Sharron Report 28 Aug 2014 18:37

Not heard anything from them yet.

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 27 Aug 2014 14:41

Merlin - if it was after "Tea Breaks" they would all be at home or in the pub, as they only have one tea break - that begins when they arrive at their place of work and finishes when they leave their place of work :-D

Merlin

Merlin Report 27 Aug 2014 14:30

OFTG, :-D You missed one out :-D All In Due Course. meaning probably after Tea Breaks etc. :-D

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 27 Aug 2014 13:31

Sharron <3 they have 2 speeds, slow and dead slow, do you have a Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB) near you, if so give them a call or a visit - I found them very helpful when I had to retire.

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 27 Aug 2014 13:10

Hello Sharron,

Not knowing how old you are so this may not apply to you. Did you know that at age 61 (Now I think) that you can claim Pension Credit. This is different from state pension. They top up your wages to a livable amount.
Although H is now of pension age we use to claim it alongside are part time jobs.

Anne

Graham

Graham Report 27 Aug 2014 12:35

Have you spoken to the local council about claiming housing benefit? That is worked out differently to the way JSA/ESA are worked out.