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OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 19 Oct 2014 16:46

The Justice Secretary Chris Grayling, is just another government minister who loves to fly kites, and that is precisely what he is doing with these proposed new laws. There are already 3 main pieces of legislation on the statute book to deal with harassment and stalking - and these are:- .

The Protection from Harassment Act 1997, The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, and The Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

What the Justice Secretary in conjunction with, the Crown Prosecution Service and the Police, should be doing, is ensuring the current laws are rigidly enforced, they should stop throwing their toys around, arguing about what defines harassment or stalking, and he should stop trying to win over voters, by flying kites designed to give the impression, that the government is doing something - coincidence he is doing this in the run up to a general election ;-)

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 19 Oct 2014 18:47

Can I just ask one question
With our jails over flowing


where are we going to put these trolls ??? :-D :-D

'Emma'

'Emma' Report 19 Oct 2014 18:50

Probably in the computer room to serve out their sentence :-D :-D

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Oct 2014 19:03

a disused North Sea oil rig :-D

'Emma'

'Emma' Report 19 Oct 2014 19:04

Is there one Ann :-)

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 19 Oct 2014 19:05

I just love unused north sea rigs
I would also put pedos and child killers on them to :-D :-D

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Oct 2014 19:07

me too - ideal spots for miscreants :-D :-D

'Emma'

'Emma' Report 19 Oct 2014 19:12

And of course they must have all the mod cons

It's their human rights :-D :-D

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Oct 2014 20:07

nah - a bucket :-D

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 19 Oct 2014 21:19

a bucket you spoil them Ann

let them squat over the side ;-) ;-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2014 21:46

sorry, but I do not think that what happens on GR comes near the definition of trolling




much much worse used to happen on the sister site Friends Reunited, between about 2007 and 2010, and they were true trolls.



what I find upsetting is that some of the people who have harassed others on here are still on site, and still don't accept that what they did was classed as harassment!



we all have strong opinions about certain topics ................. and we should be allowed to debate those with freedom,


but people should not be driven from this or any site by others


JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 20 Oct 2014 09:21

I think what was done to Eldrick was shocking
and I would class that as trolling at its worst

he was persecuted in his real life by a total Nut
he even had a letter containing white powder sent to him

and the policeman investigating was also persecuted :-( :-(

I was totally disgusted :-( :-(

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Oct 2014 09:22

totally agree Joy

LadyScozz

LadyScozz Report 20 Oct 2014 10:01

That's terrible! So why was Eldrick banned from here?

I miss him and his wit.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 20 Oct 2014 10:06

he left himself the last time

but he dealt with what was going on with humour
and was RR ed every post so GR banned him
then invited him back

but then it started again so he left again

there's some very strange people in this world :-D :-D

Mayfield

Mayfield Report 20 Oct 2014 10:27

To carry on my theme, put them in cages suspended under bridges or disused railway arch units.
;-) ;-) ;-)

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 20 Oct 2014 11:07

Can we poke then with a stick Mayfield lol xx :-D :-D

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 20 Oct 2014 12:04

"I haven't noticed much in the way of RRing for a week at least."

Well one of my posts was RRd.

Much as I dislike trolls and such I hold no candle for many of the campaigns of mumsnet and the po faced feminist brigade either.

The obvious remedy for trolls is that Facebook, Twitter et al simply out them. However that would be bad for business and possibly contravene their human rights. FB could probably finance a trial which would be interesting.

Meanwhile trolls basically carry on doing what columnists such as Melanie Philips have been doing for years. The difference now is that everybody can post their 2c worth of nutty rant showing the world the wide open spaces between the trolls' brain cells. Quite apart from the usual subjects it is amazing the sort of bile that gets posted on very technical forums about, say, autos and computing.

Like it or not modern countries are supposed to be run according to laws not opinions and fear of ukip. Democratic laws focus on tolerance and due process. That everywhere you look from obscure message boards to the front bench this basic point seems beyond the wit of people to grasp is depressing. Free speech and law are under severe pressure in the UK.

On a practical level it is a sobering thought that a significant proportion of people seem to be mad despite managing to masquerade as sane some of the time. Hence road rage, glassing etc in pubs, failure to control children correctly, manslaughter over trivial issues, lycra bikers on the pavements, false accounting in high places, mendacious CVs, barbaric punishments ( real or imagined ) trolling ...

I once used to meet these problems head on but after having one employee knifed in Islington, my cars vandalised, a rain of eggs on the windows, my (disabled, foreign) wife stoned, my mother (over 90) threatened by a mob ( because she refused to support a campaign for the eviction of a released offender ) laying low sayin' nuttin' seems the best option.

Better hold on tight to nurse for fear of finding something worse.

:-0

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 20 Oct 2014 12:07

I think they are best dealt with by ignoring them
or laughing at them :-D :-D :-D


lets face it everybody has a off switch ;-) ;-)

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 20 Oct 2014 12:17

Unfortunately for some people the "off switch" is just exactly that.

Quite properly there has to be a line beyond which texting or trolling using the means of interactive message boards is illegal. The devil as ever is in the detail - who draws the line, where is it to be drawn and how is it to be enforced ?