General Chat

All religions contain just a pinch of nonsense - like salt & pepper - 'nonsense' makes the Bible more palatable.

There is any amount of outright opposition between the New and the Old Testament. That is why Christianity is such a dangerous religion both for its adherents and its many enemies.

Vengeance never did anybody any good and that includes vicarious vengeance gloating over the ruin of this broken soul. That he seems unable to understand that his crimes were utterly evil is bad enough he believes he was doing the right thing hence his incarceration in Broadmoor.

There is more than enough evil and lack of mercy in the world adding your own 2c to it is nothing to be proud of.
Update: Dermot is right Nelson Mandela understood this completely.

Sutcliffe doen't deserve any mercy for the terrible injuries he did to the victims and one was a 16 year old girl..

Please Rollo, dont tell me and others how we should react or feel towards that report.

he was a truck driver who was a cb user and came into the place I live,,,,,,,,,I shudder,, that, had he worked on nightsout and anyone met for an eyeball with him our place may have seen a gruesome act of violence from this man...........

next thing Rollo - you'll be telling us Adolf Hitler was not all bad

Sadly there are criminals who wreck other people's lives. Quite rightly they are sent to prison often for what seems not nearly long enough.

There is another class of such criminals who seem to have altogether opted out of being a member of the human race and instead prefer mass murder in pursuit of what they see as right. Adolf Hitler, Peter Sutcliffe and the leaders of the ISIL insurgency were/are fully paid up members. Generally these people are treated as criminally insane.

It is a basic precept of justice in the civilised world going back hundreds of years that insane persons cannot be held guilty for their crimes however heinous. They are incarcerated in such places as Rampton and Broadmoor where they are treated as well as can be but usually with little result. It is no use pouring bile over these broken ruined souls even if you said it to their face they would not give a damn.

At one time in my life I was a volunteer visitor at one of these places. The depths of evil in some of the inmates is not always obvious on first acquaintance but gradually you discover that a seemingly normal person is a complicated facade hiding only the devil knows what. I believe that there should be a lot more caution on any kind of release of these people.

All I am saying is that trite comments are inappropriate.
I am certainly not defending the crimes.
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Some subjects seem as if they are not worth speaking of or thinking about. They upset, unnerve or inflame us.

Yet, when we pull down the metal shutters, we cut ourselves off from other facts that need to be faced - the ones that open us to all the eventual, inevitable consequences of self-deception.

We shut off our feelings & act as if something that matters doesn’t really matter at all.

I don't hate the man - too much effort required.
I don't need to forgive him, he's done nothing to me.

But to winge about his treatment in Broadmoor after what he's done absolutely beggars belief.

I'll be pleased when he finally departs, it will save us taxpayers a lot of money!

' An eye for an eye will only make all the world blind '

Mahatma Gandhi

I knew somebody whose theory was that it was not Peter Sutcliffe who committed the murders but his wife and that he shouldered the blame for her.

Well, she wasn't quite right either was she?

I have to say I agree with Rollo. I visited a few mental hospitals in the course of my work years ago and saw a lot of torment and suffering of souls who were dangerous but often didn't recognise they were even ill. Some are incapable of remorse, regret or empathy with their victims as they are emotions that do not exist in their minds. It doesn't lessen the horror of the crimes, the awareness of the awful suffering of the victims and their families, to treat the perpetrator of such awful crimes as a human being. If they are insane and not wholly responsible for what they do, who am I, supposedly the sane one, to make cruel remarks about someone who is sick? I just feel that doing that would say more about me.

Sharon he was described by survivors
long before he was caught :-( :-(

Joy, it's not my theory.

I think he is evil and his ex wife just dim :-( :-(

....or abused....

to Annx

Quite.

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His ex-wife has also been diagnozed in the past as schizophrenic.

There is a theory that his actions were the projection of the anger he felt toward her.

I suppose there's a chance his wife wasn't schizophrenic before she met him.

Or it could have been a case of two like minds coming together.

Either way, very few schizophrenics are dangerous.

He was/is just evil.

I think I would have mental problems
if I found out the man I married and loved

did those awful things :-( :-(