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Mystery of the old letters

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jason

jason Report 13 Apr 2015 20:59

Well I wonder if those letters hidden under the floor boards in one of the bedrooms had anything to do with the old lady being connected to the hous in some way ?

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 13 Apr 2015 19:36

Ooooh Nooo! It's not built on an ancient Native American burial ground is it????? :-D

There's a (serious) programme about American ghost hunters. Every house that is haunted is over 100 years old, and, amazingly, the 'ghost busters' always manage to find something old buried in the wall :-S

They'd be pretty spooked out if they came to many British towns - there are so many buildings over 100 years old :-D

Graham

Graham Report 13 Apr 2015 14:54

Everybody swears my dad's house is haunted. It's quite a new house. My dad bought it from the family of the original owner (after the original owner died).

We all thought that the ghost must be that of the original owner. David was his name.

One day one of my dad's neighbours asked him about the ghost. This neighbour had known David. It was David who had told him that the house was haunted.

So if David was the first person to own that house, and the house was haunted when he lived there, who was/is haunting that house? :-S

Rambling

Rambling Report 13 Apr 2015 14:04

Jason, there are a few people on here who have an interest in the paranormal, so won't think it strange at all :-)

jason

jason Report 13 Apr 2015 13:44

You will probably think that I am mad but the reason I am so interested in this address is because the first night in the house my mother woke to see an old woman dressed in old fashioned clothes (Black dress with a high white frilly collar and a white cap) just standing over her looking at her. My Mum screamed with the shock and the figure disappeared. She never saw the old lady again until 15 years later on the night before we moved out. Again she saw the same lady wearing the same clothes and she again vanished when my mum screamed. There was nothing threatening and we never felt uncomfortable in the house, we had great times there. Some of the workmen who were working on the house when Mum and Dad moved in mentioned cold spots in certain rooms. I would really like to see if I can find out who this lady was, as I am really interested in the paranormal. If you have read this before on my thread its because my pervious entry I deleted by accident. Sorry to repeat myself !

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 8 Apr 2015 21:49

Maxwell Edmund Massey Perkins 1908 was a flight lieutenant in the RAF

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 8 Apr 2015 21:34

Duncan G M Perkins died in Jamaca 1951 aged 55.


Both Gladys Avenue and Wadham Road were in Northend Portsmouth.

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Apr 2015 20:40

Just posting these to establish who was where and when

Jamaica, Civil Registration
Name: Donald Maxwell Perkins
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Apr 1903
Event Place: Parish of Kingston, Jamaica
Gender: Male
Father's Name: John Perkins
Spouse's Name: Lizzie Norah Mcphail Massy
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Father's Name: George Massy
Certificate Number: 93
Page: 20
GS Film Number: 0821447 , Digital Folder Number: 004884511 , Image Number: 02242

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Apr 2015 20:39

Duncan George Massy Perkins
Jamaica, Civil Registration
Name: Duncan George Massy Perkins
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Jun 1934
Event Place: Saint Andrew, Jamaica
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Donald Perkins
Spouse's Name: Nelsie Aitken
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Father's Name: Reginald Aitken
GS Film Number: 001855698 , Digital Folder Number: 007235154 , Image Number: 01315 ,

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Apr 2015 20:35

Duncan incoming passenger, with wife Nelsie

Name: Duncan Geo Marry Perkins planter
Birth Date: abt 1909
Age: 25
Port of Departure: Barbados
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1934
Port of Arrival: Bristol, England
Ship Name: Carare
Search Ship Database: Search for the Carare in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Messrs Elders and Fyffes Ltd
Official Number: 147345

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Apr 2015 20:32

son Maxwell appears to have married in 1934 Hitchin herts,

son Duncan did a lot of travelling back and forth to Jamaica, as here ( home address given as 64 Wadham Road still)

Name: Duncan George Massy Perkins
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1910
Departure Date: 2 Apr 1928
Port of Departure: Avonmouth, England
Destination Port: Kingston, Jamaica
Ship Name: Motagua
Search Ship Database: Search for the Motagua in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Elders and Fyffes, Limited
Official Number: 134702
Master: A W Legge

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 8 Apr 2015 19:58

If the letters referred to the First World War and they weren't anything to do with the Perkins family then someone who lived at Wadham Road after them must have brought the letters with them.

I wonder if one of Donald and Lizzies children continued to live ther after the parents moved out

When Donald came back from Jamaica travelling with him was Mrs Elizabeth Perkins his address,as Rose said, was 64 Wadham Road, her address was Northend, Portsmouth, which is where Gladys Avenue was.

Henrietta Maria of 18 Shanklin Road, Crouch End Middx died 07/12/1915. Admin to Donald Maxwell Perkins. £452.0.9.

jason

jason Report 7 Apr 2015 22:07

Ok thanks I'll give it a try.

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Apr 2015 22:03

FMP is Find My Past, the sister site to Genes R, I use Ancestry for records myself but I think an address search is easier on FMP, just to see who was in the house before 1911 perhaps.

jason

jason Report 7 Apr 2015 21:43

Sorry really new to this what is FMP ? Thanks for your help with this its something I have been wanting to find out for years to see if there is anything that may link to what my mother saw.

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Apr 2015 21:38

Jason I saw your other post before it went, given your description of the lady I would think prior to Donald living there? intriguing! ...maybe someone can take a look for the address before the 1911 census ( I believe you can search addresses on FMP?)

jason

jason Report 7 Apr 2015 21:34

Ok thanks Rambling Rose. I must have got my facts wrong and Donald and Lizzy lived in Wadham Rd and his mother henrietta lived round the corner in gladys ave. My search to find out who was there when Donald moved out continues to piece togetherwho lived there from when it was first built to the 70's
continues. However thanks to the info I have been given on my thread I can work from the perkins family on ward.

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Apr 2015 21:28

This is from incoming passenger lists

Name: Mr Donald Perkins
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 66
Port of Departure: Kingston, Jamaica
Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1936
Port of Arrival: Bristol, England
Ship Name: Ariguani
Search Ship Database: Search for the Ariguani in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Messrs Elders and Fyffes Ltd
Official Number: 148890

Home address 64 Wadham Rd

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Apr 2015 21:20

well in 1901 Henrietta was living at 122 Victoria road,

and here in 1911

Name: Henrietta Maria Perkins
Age in 1911: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stepney, London, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 5 Gladys Avenue, North End, Portsmouth, Hants
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 45
Estimated Marriage Year: 1866
Registration district: Portsmouth
Registration District Number: 90
Sub-registration district: North End and Buckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Household schedule number: 236
Piece: 5511
Household Members:
Name Age
John Perkins 69
Henrietta Maria Perkins 65
Stella Evans 8

jason

jason Report 7 Apr 2015 21:06

I have been searching bmd record to find Henrettia Perkins but every search
I have done under her name etc has come back as no results. I am trying ti assertain what year she died and where as it looks as if the house passed to her son Donald in the 1911 census. Any info would be appreciated. Mant thanks.