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Hi Vera

The Hartsmere John Sheppard became a Cobbler have found him in the census living with his maternal grandfather. My research partner has obtained his birth cert.

Marian

Hi Vera

The Hartsmere John Sheppard became a Cobbler have found him in the census living with his maternal grandfather. My research partner has obtained his birth cert.

Marian

Hi Kucinta

Yes this is the man we came up with too only one problem he married in Scotland circa 1891 claiming to be a widower and Mary Anne only died in a house fire in 1919. The John Sheppard who married Mary Anne was an adult convert to Catholocism , he was baptised in Waterford shortly before their marriage in 1859. My other research buddy is convinced its the same person but I'm still not convinced . He consistently gave his name even in court in Ireland as John Sheppard and none of his children carry Poole as part of their name. I'm thinking that they were cousins as Mary Anne's son John Edward born 1861 is on board John Poole Sheppards ship as Mate in the 1881 Scottish Census

Marian

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Name: John Poole Sheppard
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 May 1834
Christening Place: Cotton, Suffolk, England
Father's Name: Edward Sheppard
Mother's Name: Phoebe Poole
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01228-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 989594 , Reference ID: pg 41 No 321

"Cotton is a small village and civil parish located in the Mid Suffolk district of Suffolk in eastern England. Cotton lies a few miles to the east of the Great Eastern Main Line and to the west of the A140. Nearby villages include Mendlesham and Bacton, and the parish also includes the small hamlet of Dandy Corner. It's precise location is 4½ miles north east of its post town, Stowmarket, and 2½ miles north west of Mendlesham. [3]"

Other children of the same parents on familysearch are Harriot bap 1829, Ellen Matilda bap 1832, George Canning bap 1827.

Name: John Shepherd
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1853-1857
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Sussex
Birth Year: 1837

GS Film number: 1483717 , Digital Folder Number: 004620450

Have all his children its the man himself we are lacking

Marian

Patrick aloisius his son , all the children emigrated to Georgia USA

Marian

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Name: Edward Patrick Sheppard
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1865
Birthplace: Waterford, Waterford, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sheppard
Mother's Name: Mary Anne Walshe

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01184-0 , System Origin: Ireland-EASy , GS Film number: 101108 , Reference ID: v 9-2 p 924

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Name: Patrick Aloisius Sheppard
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1875
Birthplace: Waterford, Waterford, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sheppard
Mother's Name: Mary Anne Walsh

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70158-6 , System Origin: Ireland-EASy , GS Film number: 255925 , Reference ID: v 4-2 p 938

Thanks Vera

l will check it out

Marian

found this Shepperd in Mendlesham

Name: Frances E Sheppard
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
County: Suffolk
Parish: Stowmarket
Sub-District: Stowmarket
Registration District: Stow
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Birthplace: Mendlesham, Suffolk
Record Type: Household

Hi Marian

I am just about to go out so have only had time for a cursory look. However, the birth date seems very likely to be right. There is a John Sheppard whose birth is registered in the first quarter of 1838 in Hartismere, Suffolk so he would have been born end 1837 or beginning of 1838. Hartismere district covers Mendlesham. If you think this might be your man, sending for the birth certificate would confirm his parents names.

Vera

Hi all,

Have a major problem with my great grand aunts husband they married in Waterford Ireland 1859 he was a ships captain. As you know we've lost all the 19th century census records for Ireland. He only appears in one census the 1871 Welsh one aboard ship off the coast of Monmouth. I can be sure its him as his First Mate is his wife's brother in law William Frampton, they were inseparable even married two sisters within weeks of each other. The census return gives his place of birth as Mendlesham Suffolk and his age as 34 which would give him a 1837 birthdate.William died in the 1870s but John Edward seems to have disappeared no death cert , his family emigrated to Georgia USA in 1890's and Mary Anne his wife is recorded as a widow in the 1910 census.
I am guessing that his mother was called Phoebe as that's what he named his first daughter his eldest son was John Edward so his father could be either John or Edward. Another family researcher has suggested that he deserted the family and remarried in Scotland using the name John Poole Sheppard , this would make him the son of Edward Sheppard and Phoebe Poole born Suffolk 1834 who gained his First Mates papers in 1854. This John Poole Sheppard only appears in the 1881 Scottish census as a Captain but has a John Edward Sheppard born Ireland 1861 as his First Mate. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment regarding a possible bigamous marriage. Can anybody shed any further light on this slippery customer .

Marian McAra