General Chat

I love seeing children's events happy smiling faces
nothing better than seeing a sleeping baby
but maybe its the mothering instincts in me

BC posted a picture of her grandson on Facebook
it was the most tranquil lovely picture I had ever seen
his mass of curls as he slept peacefully
not a care in the world :-D :-D :-D

Its been an honour watched Sam Jax and Rosies children grow
from tiny children to near adult hood
and have now met them all in real life :-D
but its been good to watch them grow and share their good times :-D

My Oh was asked to take photos of a local show for a local paper. He was told by the editor to make sure he got all parents permission before he took photos of any children ie on a bouncy castle, highland dancers, go-carts etc. So even he had to comply with their rules.

I dont understand the need either why parents insist putting every photo of their child on social media for the world to see. it would appear to have become the norm for many. Myabe when the children are older they might just ask their parents why!!

I dont do any social media sites, i like my privacy.

If i want to share photos then i email or print and show, very simple.

Florence
in the hebrides.

Its the change of events that have moved away from anything goes and is acceptable and should be accepted without complaint or concern......what happened years ago is just that it happend years ago when things went un-noticed.

The question was about mobile capable of taking photos being used in a place where people are responsible for the welfare of minors ,,,this was a school and they are governed by the department on restrictions.

And in public places a legal action that anyone can undertake,,,,,,,,but the case would be if someone was taking snaps of your child vunerable or otherwise,would it not alert you to be concerned,?even though they are acting legally because its in a public place,



Total strangers being caught in the background of a photo has gone on for years its part and parcel in certain places it cant be helped ,such as a swimming pool.paddling pool etc.

No one is being judged as gulity automatically or that there is any motive and have no thoughts of anyting untowards but where you are in a place of trust for a minor you have a duty carry out.,thats why the school in the OP doen't allow this to happen.

I wonder why people put mundane photographs of their grandchildren or children on the public media sites as if anybody else wants to see what the school play at St Oswalds looked like.

All children look the same to me, they just wear different coloured clothes.

Unless you are somebody who makes a living from having a public profile your photographs are just personal snapshots for your own interest and pleasure.

As Brian says, in general, there is no law in the UK which prevents the taking of pictures from a public place, even when these are pictures of private properties. So yes, you can stand in the street and take pictures of a school, its playground, occupants or whatever you wish without fear of prosecution, and you do not need anyone's permission to do so.

However the Head can impose whatever restrictions he chooses re taking photos from within the school precincts as these are not a public space.

My grandsons primary school has never imposed restrictions on taking photographs during school activities and events, other to ask that flash is avodied when the children are actually performing.

Complete over-reaction.
If someone wants to take a photo of another person in a public place then it is perfectly legal.
It is a case of being judged guilty automatically.
Even cheap cameras and camcorder can have a 50x zoom so anyone who wants to can take a photo fron 100 metres away without anyone being the wiser.
What next, a 100 metre excusion zone around every child or vulnerable person?

"prior to any event at a primary school organised event parents are asked before hand if they object to thier child being filmed or named and sign a form of consent..."

What happens then if 1 parent objects? do they not film the event for the benefit of the other parents.
Many years ago when my youngest daughter was at school she took part in a ribbon gymnastics display at the summer fete, this was long before I had any means of recording the event, but I know at least 1 parent did film it and I would love to have a copy of that film.

I volunteer with children all the time, and yes I take pictures and yes there are rules about which children can't have their picture taken. Maybe I'm very naive but why do people have to put their pictures on socail media? You are taking pictures of your child or grandchild or etc. for your own pleasure not for half the world to see(and for blackmailing them when they get older)(just kidding)

I know people will read this and steam will start coming out of their ears but I can be very d-u-m-b sometimes

Well said Glasgow Lass!

Florence
in the hebrides

Florence is spot on!
Where I work, we often have organised events for children but we need to be very careful about photography and never put photos on social media without the consent of all parents concerned

Many of the children who come to these events are in foster care and some are placed for safety reasons

It could place certain children in danger if they were to be identified

As some of you know,I work in a primary school and there are now rules re taking photos. It is our policy that when any event ie xmas concert or any other, a notice is put up at the entrance to the school requesting that no photographs are to be taken at all or videos.

This is the schools policy because as in all schools im sure there are children who are adopted or who come from abusive homes and some who have come here having moved from somewhere else and dont want their picture put on any social network where maybe they can be identified by people who maybe they dont want them to know where they are.

yes it's a sad day when this is now the norm but remember when we were at school the internet hadnt been invented then and all the sites available online didnt exist.

In some ways, it was a safer place!

Florence
in the hebrides

WELL there two sides to it I guess BUT if a kiddy was abducted from a school playground then everyone would be up arms as to why the school security didnt stop it

I think its best to err on the right side even if it grates on the innocent extended family.

we have a situation ongoing at the mo with a stepson whose mother won.t take NOO for an answer even though both sides have been under social services for yonks

She has now been told contact has been withdrawn because of your unreasonable conduct only to find two weeks ago she was stopping the school bus every day on its home journey.

The child has had to be picked up from school for a week cos it put too much onto the innocent driver of the bus. The school have been advised by SS that the mum has NOOOO authority so she tried bypassing that

stressful all round especially for the child .

years ago i was stopped from taking photographs of my grandson in a pool ,

apparently only parents could take them... madness. I am not a paedophile grandmother..

The reason the school sell a CD of any event that include most of the children at that school is that prior to any event at a primary school organised event parents are asked before hand if they object to their child being filmed or named and sign a form of consent.....

Its the schools policy of duty to protection that while the children are in their care they dont allow any intrusion by person or persons unknown..


Parents sign and agree to school photographs and are supervised while this is going on.

Teachers are not allowed to take camera phones into a class room,nursery staff are not allowed to take camera phones where they have charges in their care.

Has the Plymouth nursery event gone from peoples memory,,


***There is a massive intrusion problem with taking phots of non-related children fully dressed or otherwise ,,,,,,,,,the big problem is -------that child has not given to permission to do so or its parent/guardian.or carer.***

Would there be objections if someone unknown was snapping away at your child or grandchildren or get them included in a shot ....... .as innocent as it maybe.

I know my own answer to that.

All part of the me me society we live in. "I want a photo of my child so why shouldn't I stand up in front of you and prevent you from seeing your child".

Incidentally my phone is pay as you go but it has an excellent camera.

Lyndi, exactly.!!! agree a very good move. It really was a disappointing event.

I think that is one of the reasons a lot of heads have said no photos but will sell a dvd of the event Sue - another good move, because if you are not in the front row you don't get to see much because of all the parents waving their phones and tablets in the air lol.

When i recently went to an afternoon school event for my Grandson, there were plenty of people taking photos. They were standing up all over the place and consequently i didnt get to see everything too well.

The Head Teacher just said to be 'discreet, and try not to get other children in the picture.'!! Of course, that may have changed now.

Also, not all mobiles have photo taking fascilities on them. What about Pay and Go.?

I think to use a phone in an emergency should be acceptable. If not then theyve all lost the plot.!!!!

On the other hand, when my OH went to collect grand dau. from pre school, he had to be issued with a password. Now that is a very sensible thing to do.

My in-laws stopped by a school playground and watched the children playing, saying to each other that their own grandchild would be in the playground the following year, and were asked by school staff to move on.

That grandchild is now 30 so this protection of children while on school premises is not new and I applaud it.

Funny thing is the Head allows pictures to be taken at all the School events as long as they are not posted on Facebook. :-S