General Chat

Never mind the number of people tortured and murdered by their own leaders. Probably 40million by Mao, somewhere between 25 & 40 million by Stalin. Kim Yong-Un, Pol Pot....

Is it me or has a post been changed, which alters the slant somewhat?

Aha! I knew it wouldn't be long till someone completed the circle.

The human imagination breaks free occasionally urged on by the desire to see the world as it isn't now nor probably ever was. At least, poor old Pontius Pilate knew how & when to wash his hands.

Errol

I think you may be correct :-)

This is just like our Tuesday night in the pub. We start on one subject, and it doesn't take long for it to go off on several tangents. Strangely, the more we drink, the dafter the conversation gets!

Bob - have you been watching the cricket?

No, not a sports fan at all.

Still, at least the rhubarb is sprouting.

Your round?

Mine's a pint.

Does anybody remember Roobarb & Custard? :-D

http://www.roobarbandcustard.tv/

daddadadaaa daddadadaaa da da da da daaaaaaaa

I remember well

Is it me or have some posts been deleted?

Unlike the Americans the British in Canada did not attempt a campaign of genocide against the native Americans e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre
but instead gave them sanctuary if not much else.

Sylvia might care to reflect on the treatment of British indentured farm laborers in Canada over more than a century and especially the treatment of British children forcibly expatriated to Canada during the C20.

I have some close friends who live in Denver and Prince and rellies in Salt Lake and Calgary. One of the things about Canada that drive them nuts is the country's holier-than-thou attitude towards the rest of the world and especially the USA. I tend to agree with them.

This thread has really diversified hasn't it. Just to stir thing up a bit more, I read somewhere that one item regularly smuggled into the USA from Canada, is toilet cisterns. The reason being that the US ones are limited in the amount of water in the flush, for ecological reasons, but because the average US bowel movement is rather on the large side,, one flush doesn't do it. In Canada, by contrast, larger cisterns are readily available, hence the smuggling.

bob - sounds like a job lot!

:-D :-D :-D :-D

the last US / Canada smugglers I was aware of were the Kennedys who amassed a fortune by smuggling booze.

Does this mean that the next US president will be a plumber ?
Will he/she be a member of the Tea Party?

Will the UK and France open a new staging post in St Pierre & Miquelon and move all the Calais lot there?

The current Whitehouse incumbent is not universally 'liked' in the USA - nor is his wife unsurprisingly.

Rollo ..............

how very strange to read what you posted .........

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"Unlike the Americans the British in Canada did not attempt a campaign of genocide against the native Americans e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre
but instead gave them sanctuary if not much else.

Sylvia might care to reflect on the treatment of British indentured farm laborers in Canada over more than a century and especially the treatment of British children forcibly expatriated to Canada during the C20.

I have some close friends who live in Denver and Prince and rellies in Salt Lake and Calgary. One of the things about Canada that drive them nuts is the country's holier-than-thou attitude towards the rest of the world and especially the USA. I tend to agree with them."
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IF you knew your Canadian history ............... we didn't kill the First Nations by shooting them, although there were a few battles

We killed them by neglect, starvation, brutality, beatings, sexual assaults of the worst order.

We deprived them of any pride in themselves, their parents and ancestors, their way of life, and their beliefs.

We killed them by making them into "little white people"

We killed them by destroying every spark of individuality, and by teaching them to drink alcohol and take drugs

We killed them by destroying any knowledge of family life, removing any knowledge of how to raise children, how not to be abusers themselves.

We killed them by leaving them so desolate that they commit suicide, become prostitutes, teaching the men that it is OK to abuse and kill women.

We taught them to live that way for over 5 generations ....................


We and they will be paying for many years to come the penalty for over 100 years of doing that.


I am glad if the Americans are beginning to realise that they committed genocide at Wounded Knee and other battle grounds .........

........ I do not believe that they have yet come to realise how badly they treated their children in the Residential School system.

I saw a museum in Arizona that praised how good the schools were, with photos of good and happy little Indian children sitting at desks or standing in rows. You only had to look at the eyes of those children to know how lost and unhappy they were.

And the Americans have the same problems that we have up here with the "lost souls" living on the streets.

We didn't give them sanctuary ............... we destroyed their sanctuaries, and allowed them to live on small reserves.


I am quite aware of the Home Children sent to Canada and Australia in a belief that it would be better for them, and the treatment of many of them by their supposed deliverers. Recompense is being made to and for them ............ but you should also blame the Child Societies in the UK that sent them out.


The only country that has a relatively better record with their First Nations people than all others is New Zealand, which signed treaties with the Maoris rather than attempting to conquer "ignorant savages"


You know nothing of the effects in Canada, you only seem to want to correct everything that I say.

I recently read "Bury my heart at Wounded Knee" - heartbreaking stuff

AnnC ........

it is heartbreaking to read any of the past history of the First Peoples in America, Canada, even Australia.

We've been learning about it for the 48 years that we have lived over here .............. our first introduction to the traumas imposed by the white man being to the black people in the southern US, and then extending to the treatment of the First Nations.

same thing happened in Australia - white man considering himself to be supreme and hunting down the black man - and look at them now, second class citizens in their own country