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Men who abuse Asian girls should receive harsher sentences than those who abuse British girls, on the grounds that Asian girls suffer more because of the shame etc. Discuss.

Rubbish!

*discussed*

Don't be so silly...

Abuse is abuse, regardless of the victims ethnicity.

BULL CRAP men who abuse any female should be treated with the hands of the tender loving mothers ... STUPID debate

I believe that a judge suggested this, what a wally

yep .........

......... it was suggested by a judge, reported in the MailOnLine about 2 days ago

In fact, I think he gave a harsher sentence to accused men, with the above explanation.

utter tosh Bob

It perhaps should be noted that this was an appeal, against the sentence given originally by a female judge, the judges upheld that sentence.

"The judge who jailed him, Sally Cahill QC, specifically said that the fact the victims were Asian had been factored in as an 'aggravating feature' when passing sentence.
She stated that the victims and their families had suffered particular 'shame' in their communities because of what had happened to them.
Additionally there were cultural concerns that the girls' future prospects of being regarded as a good catch for arranged marriages might be damaged."

"The argument that Ul Nasir was given a longer sentence due to his own 'ethnic and religious origin' was based on 'a misconception', he added.
'The judge who tried the case was in the best position to determine the correct sentence.'

Mr Justice Walker, sitting with Lord Justice Laws and Mr Justice Mitting, at London's Royal Courts of Justice,, concluded: 'There is no basis for saying that Judge Cahill adopted an incorrect starting point. This application for leave to appeal against sentence must be refused.'

Goes without saying that "Asian girls" can of course also be "British girls",

imo the sentences should be as tough ( and that is very tough) whoever is the victim, whether they were born here or not.

Utter rubbish an assault is what it is .doesn't matter who against was the judge Asian ? same law for All

what about those involved in FGM?

well that's the parents

The judge was Sally Cahill, not exactly an Asian name. And the one who upheld the sentence was Justice Walker, I don't think he's Asian either. Rose has already given the names.

Of course assault is assault. The Mail isn't known for its accuracy in reporting and I'm wondering if the judge said that as an Asian man the guilty man would have known how the community would have viewed it and thus he deserved a heavy sentence.

Not sure why Bobtanian raised the subject of FGM.

don't you think that THAT is abuse? or don't you know what it entails........?

This was not my view. It was something I read in the paper, (not the Mail) and actually disagree with. I think most sentences for assault on girls are far too light, whatever their ethnicity.

The discussion was about Asian girls being abused.

FGM is almost entirely inflicted on girls of African origin. Hence I see no connection.

Agree Bob .to little to late sometimes .I would chop um off .not allowed to say what just upsets me .they wouldn't do it again

Ok I've slightly gone off topic.......

so that is not abuse then? rather that a religious ritual?


you appear in this topic,to be concentrating of the male abuser rather than ANY abuser......

Of course it's abuse. Stupid question.

The thread was about a specific case involving an Asian man abusing Asian girls.