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Thanks to all that are spending time doing this research, I really do appreciate. I will have a go at Isaac being Isaac's father and see what I come up with??

I strongly suspect theat Isaac's father was incorrectly named as William on Isaac's marriage certificate and that the father was actually Isaac. Possibly Isaac William or William Isaac.

Births that could be his based on baptism record.

Births Sep 1882
Williams Isaac Holywell 11b 251

16 miles apart

Births Mar 1882

Williams Isaac Wrexham 11b 287

23 miles apart

I would order the Holywell one first or ask the GRO to check parents' names are correct before completing the order.

If anyone can spot something wrong please add.

Thanks

Isaac was baptised 28 Sep 1882

Llanrhaeadr Yng Nghinmerch

Father: Isaac

Mother: Elizabeth

The "home person" on the tree that I mentioned seems to be a son of Isaac Williams & Maud Tetlow and had a brother Clifford.

If his father was Isaac, this could be him. Father is a carpenter, a widower.

Issac Williams

in the 1891 Wales Census
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Name: Issac Williams
[Isaac Williams]
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's name: Issac Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanrhaiadr, Flintshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanrhaiadr in Kinmerch
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanrhaiadr in Kinmerch
Town: Llanrhaiadr in Kinmerch
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Ruthin
Sub registration district: Llanrhaiadr
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4624
Folio: 12
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Issac Williams 48
David Williams 15
Catherine Williams 14
Thomas Williams 10
Issac Williams 9
William Williams 6
Elizabeth Williams 5
Hannah Williams 3
Ann Williams 54, his sister

On the marriage certificate 6th March 1916 Isaac Williams-Maud Tetlow, Isaac's father is William Williams, deceased and a carpenter.
Isaac is 34, Maud is 28

A tree on Ancestry says that he's the son of Isaac Williams (1843-) and Elizabeth Roberts (1857-). There's also a photo of him.

The information belongs to someone else Margee.

No drama just common courtesy to the tree owner who I will contact.

It's hardly fair to share someone else's research without asking.

Why a private message, Sue? The rest of us are interested, I know I am.

I have him I think, please check your messages in 30 mins :-D

Sue

children, Eric, Clifford and Eileen, born 1916, 1919 and 1921

Name Isaac Williams
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1928
Registration District Salford
County Lancashire
Event Place Salford, Lancashire, England
Age (available after 1866) 45
Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Volume 8D
Page 451
Line Number 108

hold Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Williams Head Married Male 36 1855 >>>Sawyers Labourer<<< Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
Mary A Williams Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Durham, England Transcription
Emma Williams Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Flannel Mill Hand Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
John H Williams Son Single Male 16 1875 Flannel Mill Hand Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
Mary J Williams Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
>>>Isaac Williams<<< Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
William O Williams Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
Margaret A Williams Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
Llewelyn Williams Son - Male 2 1889 Scholar Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription
Robert T Williams Son - Male 0 1891 - Holywell, Flintshire, Wales Transcription

1891 census,,

a sawyer is a woodworker......

First name(s) Isaac
Last name Williams
Service number 19604
Rank Private
Regimental number on roll 19604
Battalion 20th (Service) Battalion
Company A Company
Platoon Platoon No I
Service record WO 364 & WO 363
Transcriber's notes Roll gives J WILLIAMS
Record set >>>Salford Pals 1914-1918<<<<<
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain
British Army Ancestors.

Could he have served WW1?

There are a some born in 1882 in Wales in each quarter.

Below is 1st quarter.

Williams Isaac Wrexham 11b 287
Williams Isaac John Merthyr T. 11a 487.

Can't find another one in Denbighshire with father William a carpenter. Guess I'll have to join the others who have searched without success!

This one's father is also a coal miner:

Isaac Williams

in the 1891 Wales Census
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Name: Isaac Williams
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Williams
Mother's name: Elizabeth Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Bersham, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Bersham
Ecclesiastical parish: Minera
Town: Coedpoeth
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Wrexham
Sub registration district: Wrexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4614
Folio: 114
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
William Williams 53
Elizabeth Williams 46
Henry Williams 24
Elizabeth Williams 22
William P Williams 12
Ann Williams 11
Isaac Williams 8
Sarah E Williams 4

Wondered about this one but father is a coal miner not a carpenter.

Isaac Williams

in the 1891 Wales Census
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Name: Isaac Williams
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Grandson
Father's name: William Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Rhosllannerchrugog, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Ruabon
Ecclesiastical parish: Rhosllannerchrugog
Town: Rhosllannerchrugog
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Wrexham
Sub registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4612
Folio: 172
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Williams 60
William Williams 35
Isaac Williams 10
Eliza A Williams 15
Mary Williams 12

A visitor in 1911. (Doesn't help)


Isaac Williams

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Isaac Williams
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Denbigh, Wales
Civil Parish: North Manchester
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 41 Patey St Longsight
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Railway Servant Shipping Clerk
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Bradford
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Piece: 24317
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Owen 40
Mary Owen 35
Gladys Owen 12
Elsie Owen 10
Edith Owen 9
Ethel Owen 8
Isaac Williams 29