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neither can I ......... as you and both thought ............. it looks like a name change of some sort, and maybe a falsified father's name?
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Thanks for your replies
I do know my mother Rose Mitcham he would have been her grt grandfather
Talked about aunt Harriet and Aggie they lived in St. Pancras.
Don't know if either were married my grandmother married his son also Charles Edward Mortimer. Her Name Ellen Caroline Barratt.
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a possible who might match Sylvia's 1861 Charles, in 1851
Name: Charles Mortimore
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Holborn St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Elizabeth Mortimore 59 charwoman
George Mortimore 18
Eliza Mortimore 18
Mary Ann Mortimore 7 - all from here down are 'visitor', all born 'Mid, London'
Eliza Mortimore 4
Elizabeth Mortimore 9 Mo
> William Mortimore 36 - street sweeper
Elizabeth Mortimore 29 - shoe binder
> Charles Mortimore 3
Caroline Mortimore 7 (it says 1, not 7)
Births Sep 1850
Mortimer Elizabeth Holborn 2 139
Births Jun 1850
Mortimer Caroline Holborn 2 139
so probably the children other than Charles and Caroline do not belong to the William and Elizabeth couple
found that Charles's christening but not a birth reg
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1V9-M94
Name Charles Mortimer
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 Jul 1850
Christening Place St. Andrew's, Holborn, Middlesex, England
Father's Name William Mortimer
Mother's Name Elizabeth Mortimer
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQLL-YYL
Name Charles Mortimer
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 Jul 1850
Christening Place SAINT ANDREW,HOLBORN,LONDON,ENGLAND
>> Birth Date 28 Jun 1847
Father's Name William Mortimer
Mother's Name Elizabeth
baptised at the same time as Caroline who was born 13 March 1850
if one or both parents had died before 1861, children could have gone to an institution
... ah, but they also christened children in Holborn up to 1869
this is the household in 1861
William Mortimer 44
Elizabeth Mortimer 39
Charle Mortimer 14
Louisa Mortimer 9
George Mortimer 6
Walton Mortimer 4
Elizabeth Hanson 70 aunt
but I lose them in 1871
this is the 1851 household in 1841 (other children in 1851 could have belonged to one of the daughters)
Civil Parish: St Giles in The Fields
Registration district: St Giles
Bull Gate Yard
Elzbth Mortimer 45 ind
> Wm Mortimer 20 lab
Amelia Whitehead 25
Caroline Mortimer 20
Eliza Mortimer 20
George Mortimer 8
Robt Mortimer 3
obviously, I am tending to the 'made up father' theory :-)
possibly, if Charles was born Mortimer with father Mortimer, he was reared with a Mitcham stepfather and adopted his name ...
the other obvious possibility is that he was born Mitcham with mother Mitcham, his father was William Mortimer, and he fabricated the name 'William Mortimer Mitcham' when he married
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