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Sharron

Sharron Report 3 Sep 2016 01:18

My mate, who was coming far to close to double figures with children, was in hospital having given birth to her umpteenth. She had bottle fed all her children and was happily bottle feeding this one but the young lady with her first in the same ward had elected to breast feed.

She was having huge difficulty but the nurses were adamant that she must persevere and not give the child a bottle. My mate, tired and quite distressed by hearing the cries of a very hungry baby disturbing her own satiated child, made up a bottle and fed the child herself.

She had been there, had all the instincts in place and wasn't taking any shot from anybody!

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 3 Sep 2016 00:26

That's such a shame, Sue. A sign of 'management' interfering with reality.
The 'we've got the degree, read the recommended books, but never been on the front line' mob. Paid too much money to mouth off 'academic' bullsh*t.


Caroline, I learnt to read before I started school, using the Beano and Dandy :-D :-D

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 3 Sep 2016 00:09

My eldest started project 2000 but gave up the course after 18 months.

Not allowed to use own initiative, everything by rote. No comforting a distressed baby when she was on placement (the child would expect it every time it cried). No chatting with patients (work would suffer). No speaking in any language other than English (this was in Swansea).

Totally demoralised she phoned us crying asking to be collected from the nurses' residence.

Her next patients were already dead (podiatry - removing tendons and ligaments from the deceased) they didn't need talking to or comforting ;-)

Caroline

Caroline Report 2 Sep 2016 23:49

Ahhh the Beano.......maybe that's someone's Bible....

Totally agree on the getting trained then buggering off for more money.

Rollo...my dear old Mum always told us as kids don't try and win an argument by calling others names or swearing...both show your lack of intelligence

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 2 Sep 2016 23:37

Is that a niece or neice?
What relation is a neice?
My sister in law is a Sister on a heart ward. She trained here, and stayed here.
A lot of NHS money is spent on training people who then bugger off for more money..
If you were trained (for free, as it was) by the NHS, I feel you should give at least 5 years of work back to the country, or else you are a major contributor in the 'failure of the NHS, and should be ashamed.

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 2 Sep 2016 23:17

It should have, that's why I referred to the Beano ;-)

Sharron

Sharron Report 2 Sep 2016 23:15

Shouldn't that have a 'b' in it?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Sep 2016 23:09

SRN there isnt such a thing, lets be correct ........misogynist.

It was phased out in the early 1980s when ""we ""were all then RN with a pin.........SEN hasnt been a title since that.

BTW,,EN dont have a problem within the nursing profession they are part of a diverse valued requirement within the NHS .and more retentive than an RN.



****The SRN and RN - are synonymous, only the ENs have any problems getting work****came from this site.

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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20100805114319AAY17qH

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 2 Sep 2016 22:55

numskulls? are we all reading the Beano now?

Sharron

Sharron Report 2 Sep 2016 22:52

Of course she did.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 2 Sep 2016 22:50

The SRN and RN - are synonymous, only the ENs have any problems getting work.
She passed her nursing degree with a 1st and quite rapidly got promoted.
She is now on the Australian register.

numskulls

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Sep 2016 22:45

a state registered nurse? :-S

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 2 Sep 2016 22:41

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Sep 2016 22:33


There hasnt been a SRN in UK since 1980s. :-)

Caroline

Caroline Report 2 Sep 2016 20:00

"Caroline is quite right."

There you go something sensible at last.....except.....some people do get all that for free just depends where you live in the UK doesn't it and quite why everyone else doesn't moan about that is beyond my feeble brain........but this was off topic....

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 2 Sep 2016 19:55

~~~~~~to Bro <3 and yooohooo to Susan :-D

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 2 Sep 2016 19:52

Caroline is quite right. The current business model of the NHS is hopelessly bust and not fixable. However quite large bits are not free - prescription charges can be quite pricy, my optician charges the earth, so does the dentist.

The current Tory strategy seems to be that of salami slicing of the service, denying access to modern kit such as new drugs and radiotherapy machines and creating long waiting lists. At the same time they are trying to hold down staff costs by paying rubbish wages to people from other EU countries and annoying junior doctors. My neice SRN has gone to OZ and won''t come back who can blame her. This system will please no one in the end.

Far better to bite the bullet and bring in an insurance based system with a core service free to the unemployed, kids etc and the rest put into bands. Both employees and empployers would have to pay a lot more than they do right now This is what the rest of the developed world does.

You can have a free health service or a cheap health service.
You cannot have both at the same time.

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 2 Sep 2016 19:36

Yaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Of to FB to read some intelligent threads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

~~~~~~~~to Sis. :-D

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 2 Sep 2016 19:03

Rollo please don't delete this, there is a queue waiting to read through it :-D

Caroline

Caroline Report 2 Sep 2016 19:02

"People of this persuasion are known to travel around the country in a large red bus with lies such as large sums to the NHS plastered on the side"

Yeah cos the other side never told ANY porkies hey Rollo

Lets be honest though this is going off topic from the start of this thread, the NHS as it stands can not carry on being free to all either you'll have to pay directly for some services or you'll pay more in taxes or you have to ensure only those that are entitled to use the service for free do so.......