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David

David Report 22 Feb 2017 08:16

SO SAD ALL THOSE STARVING DISEASED CHILDREN.

NOTABLE ABSENSE OF ADULT MALES.

WHERE ARE THERE FATHERS :-( :-0 :-|

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Feb 2017 09:58

Killed, fighting, or making their way to Europe.

Wallets are opened for children, not for adults. In any event, the footage was probably filmed at feeding stations where the mothers have brought their children.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 22 Feb 2017 10:25

Forsan miseros meliora sequentur.
<3

David

David Report 22 Feb 2017 10:55


The men regard it a sign their virility producing ever more children, especially sons.
Not wise since they cannot provide for those they have.
Free birth control is available but not being used.
Not only is it unfair on the children it is very unfair on the mothers :-( :-|

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Feb 2017 11:12

While many would agree with you David, there is another perspective.

High infant or child mortality is common in many 3rd world countries if the parents can't afford to pay for treatment or buy food. They'll have many children in the hope that some of them will survive.
Those children will then help to work the land & support their parents in their old age.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 22 Feb 2017 11:25

The problems of Somalia are not at all due the reasons I given by David who has a ccepted hook line and sinker the position of neo colonialists and liberals. The most sig problem has been the invasion of the country by Italy in the 1920s which led to the wasteland under the heel of Ethiopia. Since independence Somalia has suffered from rule by isis backed war Lords and high energy prices for cooking which has led to trees being cut down for firewood. The loss of trees and grass has decimated the cattle hence the hunger. Somalia and Ethiopia are also in the front line of regions suffering from climate change.

Somalians are highly intelligent friendly people living in a failed state with few friends.

before posting cpy Malthusian solutions got 2nd hand try doing some research first.

David

David Report 22 Feb 2017 12:57


Thank you for that.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 22 Feb 2017 13:34

There is no such thing as a welfare state in trad pastoral societies such as Somalia. Large families are a necessity as the children help with the farming. Cattle herding and provide for the old. Welfare and work is based on the extended family and the tribe.

Western gov, the Vatican and aid agencies have done endless harm to such societies in e Africa, Afghanistan and so on. Now we are reaping the whirlwind from the planted dragon's teeth

Caroline

Caroline Report 23 Feb 2017 01:52

So RR'd again....someone doesn't have a sense of humour obviously......grow up people if you can't laugh then what is life....

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 23 Feb 2017 01:54

What was yr joke I missed it?

Caroline

Caroline Report 23 Feb 2017 03:22

It was following on from your comment about welfare not being good for some races....

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 23 Feb 2017 06:31

I said no such thing.

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 23 Feb 2017 10:00

Another dimension to the situation is that as militia move around the country, it does not buy food but simply takes what it wants, leaving farmers with little or no food to feed families.

Even when a bank lends money to women and not men for farming, believing that women will feed their families, it is of limited use if their produce is taken by the militia.

One can see why some young boys who may have stayed and farmed, join the militia - empty stomachs. That is another reason why there appear to be fewer males to be seen tilling the land.

The solution?

Caroline

Caroline Report 23 Feb 2017 10:43

Whatever Rollo....

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 23 Feb 2017 11:13

A very apposite point Joylouise.
However the west has lost interest in such matters as imposing the rule of law so that normal life can go on. The result is that our enemies take advantage while we are flooded with refugees fleeing war. Torture and Starvation.
UK gov is so disinterested that it seeks to use foreign aid for Brexit bribery.

Caroline

Caroline Report 23 Feb 2017 11:17

How can you weave anti Brexit views into everything !!
Let me guess today storm is down to Brexit..

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 23 Feb 2017 11:38

I havent woven anything the Brits are running attempts at bilateral sweetheart deals in e Europe in return for support in the upcoming negs. The deals would be financed by the foreign aid budget. Paris and Berlin are displeased and have warned London that such actions could result in no negs at all apart from the brexit bill itself.

Caroline

Caroline Report 23 Feb 2017 11:45

So the UK is spending some money to look after home rather than for instance funding a girl band..and Germany and France the two countries who will have to pick up the financial slack are sulking what a surprise....

magpie

magpie Report 23 Feb 2017 11:48

Rollo, that is actually complete rubbish, and you know it. War, starvation, destitution, all these dire situations were alive and well in Africa long long before brexit. It's an insovable problem while countries persist in fighting each other and their economies are constantly wrecked by warfare. Help for problems caused by natural disasters are almost always immediately wrecked, leaving the population once again starving and displaced. These constant conflicts are not the sole fault of his country, though I'm sure you'd like to convince us otherwise

magpie

magpie Report 23 Feb 2017 11:53

You know that these deals are being financed by foreign aid?!! I don't think you do, I think you just like to sound all knowing and terribly important, safe in the knowledge that no one on here will challenge your flimsy information!