General Chat

The influx of immigrants and UK's need to support them in so many ways prompted
a speech from the late Enoch Powell.
In the last few years the demands on the Social Services have increased ten fold.

Newby you said min wage people are worth min wage and need to sort themselves out to improve........as noted here even if not on min wage many are only just off min wage.....none of which will get you a good home AND good food on the table.
Yes all Governments are to blame but so too are people who don't pay their taxes.....or send money abroad.....or buy off the back of the lorry.

As said before there is no quick fix but this suggestion will help in the meantime.

No ..I said minimum wage people are paid what the job description classes as the correct wage for their skill sector. Customers supplied by other companies covering this particular skill sector are only prepared pay accordingly .
I would love to pay my staff the living wage spouted by many but if I don't make a profit and my customers refuse to pay the price I am asking ...what do I do?
Answer ..stop employing and give up ...close down
Again I have to ask you ..how and why should employers be held responsible for the needs of their workers having a lifestyle that they attain to when they are being squeezed by the clients they supply a service to? Something has to go and sadly it will be the wage we can pay or it will be jobs
As for paying taxes? That does not apply to my company ..be assured of that

Or to look at it from the other way.....if people had higher wages they could buy more and pay more.......chicken and egg come to mind

No ..if people are paid more the cost is passed on to the end user. Wages go up ..manufacturing costs go up , distribution costs go up ..everything increases. So those that have a pay rise end up as the end users paying more and often more out of pocket.

Agreed....and again though the same argument works.....don't get paid enough can't buy enough....it's a vicious circle and it keeps many a good person down.

Again though in the meantime feed the hungry........

The need / demand for a higher salary is the result of previous wage increase forcing up costs. How much is £1 worth now ? Not a lot.

It's ecomomics... The value of a product is defined by the cost to manufacture distribute , service and the end cost is paid by the consumer. Wages are not the issue..the cost of employment to employers and the taxes applied from the start to finish are what matters. All these cost have a pyramid effect
Everytime the government introduces yet another cost to the employer ...manufacturer ,the prices to the consumer will increase. .. :-( They can fob the employees off with income tax reduction but they now have Nest pension...increase in NI contributions ..retirement age has been increased, state pension will reduce..

And again this thread was about feeding the hungry :-)

Just looked in Mark will be wondering what happened to his thread, feed the hungry .hope the powers that be can do something :-)

I think all of this thread relates to feeding the hungry and finding homes/jobs for the homeless..who want this
.Sorry Caroline for jumping on a soap box and I hope that this petition gets results..it is a really worthy cause. <3

Just having a discussion....no apology needed unless you ever turn personal and infer I'm a right wing bigot like some :-)

If any of you support this petition spread the word to your friends. I'm sure Mark will be grateful.

Right wing bigot?? Idiots and ignore that attitude ! You care
Blimey Caroline I have loved talking to you ..not been on here for ages and really enjoyed this ..XXX

To my mind, the whole economic crisis was caused by greedy bankers.

It really riles me that RBS (72% owned by 'us') managed to make yet another loss - for the ninth year running - this time £70bn.
...and I've no doubt the (b)anker in charge will get a stonking great bonus :-|

Yes I would be very grateful if people could sign, There are 85 comments on here but I only have 25 signatures to date hmmm ;)

No maggiewinchester, it was only £7bn.

Because Mark most of those 85 comments came from me !!! well it feels that way and yes I signed :-)

signed Mark x

Caroline and Newby my petition has increased by 2 so yes I know you have both signed, many thanks and much appreciated.

Will try to spread the word Mark x