General Chat

Now 5 dead.....

Terrible.

My father was in the London Met. A thin blue line beteen us and anarchy.
I am sad for all those killed and maimed. My heart goes out to the family of officer Palmer.

So now the terrorists of Al de'esh faced with the demise of their rotten criminal so called caliphate resort in their nadir to murder by acolytes
They are not interested in "British values" one way or the other. They should be then they would understand that any chance of success for their desperate strategy is nil.
I just hope that this attack is not used to knock yet another nail in our personal freedoms.

Channel 4 in their unseemly rush to impart unverified information named the wrong man as the attacker.

Kay Burley AKA The Ghoul was dispatched to wield her usual degree of insensitivity after a tragic event.

So called experts were wheeled out on most news channels to speculate.

Can we just please wait for facts when victims have died - they are all that should concern us.

I must say I think its really sad
My thoughts are with the dead and injured

also their family and friends :-( :-(

In case anyone missed this -

http://www.mcb.org.uk/westminster-attack/


Muslim Council of Britain (MCB)

Westminster Attack

22 March 2017

We are shocked and saddened by the incident at Westminster. We condemn this attack and while it is still too early to speculate on the motives, our thoughts and prayers are for the victims and those affected. We pay tribute too to the police and emergency services who handled this with bravery. The Palace of Westminster is the centre of our democracy and we must all ensure that it continues to serve our country and its people with safety and security.

As it was in a public place the authorities could not cover it up.
I was working in London on 7/7 when the story was put out that a power surge on the underground had blown up three tube trains and a bus.
Anyone outside a mental institution knew that was a load of bo**ocks.
Maybe they were trying to avoid panic but it destroyed one's faith in "Official Announcements".
Was one supposed to look out for power surges rather than being more aware of suspicious activity?
One tube and the bus were quite close to where I worked.

So we're all pretty sure this terrorist will have justified their actions due to their own interpretation of their religion......does this mean I think everyone that follows this religion thinks the same as this terrorist no of course not but they have to do more than just say that, actions speak louder than words. Stop allowing people to preach the other interpretations to young impressional people.

Now I suppose someone will RR me as the guidelines say you can't say negative things about religions. What happened to freedom of speech people nothing in this thought is offensive.

RIP to all of the victims

Because my two other ones were; one is restored one is removed now.

I never poured scorn on a religion though we all know who we're talking about.

They can be stopped by stopping the brain washing.

I do hope there is no backlash against law abiding Muslims

and wondering why on earth those policemen on duty do not wear stab vests and carry guns

exactly what I said on another thread Ann. He was so vulnerable, no stab vest and not armed, poor fellow and his poor family.

All front line officers in the London Met are issued with stab vests. However it is not compulsory to wear them in the abscence of immediate danger.

It was reported in the paper today that Germany is to deport two German born men who are known to be involved in terrorism related activities, but have not been charged. They are to be deported to their parent's country of birth, that is Algeria and Nigeria. If Germany can do it, why can't UK? Our courts constantly thwart the will of Parliament on this.

The German courts may prevent the deportation. They have to be satisfied that the men will not come to harm in the countries to which they are being deported.

come to harm? well if they are terrorists, who cares!!

So, it transpires the 'terrorist' was named (probably Christened) Adrian Elms./possibly other surname he used a lot of aliases, but was born in the UK, probably in Kent, and wasn't some youth who was 'radicalised' - he was in his 50's.
If he WAS radicalised in his 50's - just shows what a weak being he was,

I'm almost sure his 'conversion' to terrorism - as it sure as hell isn't Islam - didn't lead to his unlawful behaviour, as he was well known to police under his 'given' name.
He was just some 'nobody' - brought up, I'm sure with 'British Values' - wanting to be a 'somebody'.
Sadly the only way he could imagine doing it was at the cost of other people's lives.

Also a good example of why reporters etc shouldn't be presumptive.

He was even less of a Muslim than the tw*ts who joined the IRA were Catholic.

Stabs Vests is a torso protector.


They dont protect the neck is an area of a stab can be fatal.

Scotland Yard says his birth name was Adrian Russell Ajao, born in Dartford, Kent in 1964

Added - no birth reg in that surname although there ones in Elms & Mason
Elsewhere it says that he had a stepfather - perhaps that's where the Ajao surname came from?

married twice - first to someone with a British sounding name
second to someone with a middle eastern sounding name

four daughters from first marriage

His bio is on the front page of the Sun