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Apparently, a number of PCs have unexpectedly been blocked from receiving future Windows 10 updates.

Those affected are PCs that came out in 2012 or later.

These computers shipped with Windows 8 or Windows 8.1, and Microsoft made Windows 10 available to them as a free update.

Unfortunately, these computers have now been found to be unable to install the Windows 10 Creators Update

You can still use your computer, but, after 18 months, will no longer receive the security updates.

If you'd chosen to stay with Windows 8 or 8.1 instead of upgrading to Windows 10, you would continue to receive support through to 1 October 2023.

Full article with all the ins and outs here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-creators-update-problems-no-longer-supported-on-this-pc-block-microsoft-updates-a7847606.html

Interesting. We are still getting the automatic updates, and I have been trying to avoid installing the Creators Update, which is sort of voluntary, because it alters all sorts of things - called improvements.

If I have understood the article correctly the problem only applies to some makes. The ones listed are all Acer, so perhaps we'll be OK.

Yes, it's only some makes - but irritating if it's 'your' make!!! :-|

I agree - computers are expensive!! :-|

If they can't sort it out, perhaps they'll do some sort of part-exchange.

I have had a look at the link! just wish I understood it!! all that confusing jargon didn't help me at all.
What is Creators?

My PC was purchased about 2yrs ago, an HP pavilion, & came with windows10.

Joan.

From what I understand, those bought already provided with windows 10 aren't affected.

Thanks maggie, hope all will be well then.

I didn't really want Windows10 because I felt it was too "fancy / frilly" for my needs! so much on it that I do NOT use or want! having used XP for ever I really didn't want to change!

Joan.

Apparently those machines affected are mainly certain types of tablets and convertibles, not conventional desktop pc's

The article actually starts "A number of PCs have unexpectedly been blocked from receiving future Windows 10 updates."

....but then.....

As often is the case, once you start digging deeper the real facts start to emerge.

Not good news for those who are affected, granted.

I have refused to get windows 10 even though I have been 'pushed' to get it. I think it depends on windows mood whether they update 8.1 or not. sometimes it takes days and sometimes not.

If you haven't updated to Windows 10 - you'll receive support until 2023 :-D :-D :-D
(according to the article).

Which is strange, as we were 'informed' that if we didn't upgrade to Windows 10, we would lose the use of our computers, or left pinkies - or something like that would befall us :-D :-D

Oh dear 2023 isn't that far away, if you think about it. :-0 I almost did update to windows 10 when I heard my computer would stop working, but I am a risk taker so I took it.

But maybe North Korea will blow us all up and I won't have to think about getting a new computer(s) :-S :-|

That's it Rocky - look on the bright side :-S :-S :-S :-S

With Donald Trump as a country next door neighbour, you have to be prepared for anything.

Koreas aim just has to be a tiny weeny bit off and they hit us. :-P I'm sure England will be safe, they aren't trying to hit you. Or maybe the forest fires will head in our direction and burn the house down.

Ohhh there all sorts of bright sides here :-D :-D ;-)

:-D :-D :-D :-D

I'd also recommend you read the article - don't take my word for it!! :-D :-D

Blasted Win 10 was still in development when it was forced upon new computer purchasers.

The absolute worst edition since I used Win 3.1 when I bought my first Windows PC.

Whoops!
I can't remember windows 3.1 - was that an Amstrady thing?

3.1 was introduced by Microsoft in 1992 and was their first attempt to move beyond the DOS roots of earlier operating systems.

I remember is caused problems at work as many of our existing pc's were unable to cope, despite meeting the 'minimum requirements' and simply ran out of steam, grinding to a halt if called upon to do more than one task at a time.

The current problem affects mainly hybrid, 2 in one laptops / tablets / notebooks using older Intel Atom (Clover Trail) processors, which were originally passed as ok for W10 when first released, and indeed did support the last major upgrade, the Anniversary Update.

However the latest Creators update won't work. Microsoft and Intel are allegedly working on a solution, which is likely to require an updated version of the driver software on these machines.

One thing many don't like about W10 is that is changed the way in which updates were delivered. Previously you had to make a conscious effort to upgrade to the next version. W10, however, does not allow the selective installation of updates, and all updates (including patches, feature updates, and driver software) are downloaded and installed automatically.

The only way to stop automatic updates is to set your wireless connection to 'metered' This reduces the operating system's background network activity to conserve limits on internet usage, most updates are not downloaded until the device is connected to a non-metered network.

I agree, most of the routine updates are automatic, but this latest Creators Update seems to be voluntary. They keep asking when I would like to install it, with options of "Now", "Choose a date" and "Snooze". Last time it appeared I chose "Snooze" and they left me in peace for a week!! Yesterday I chose "Snooze" again, and shall continue to do so as long as I can! :-)

Has anybody installed the Creators Update? If so, how different is it from the current Windows 10?