General Chat

I'm reading a book, it's mainly about the use of hypnotherapy and regression as used to deal with psychological problems, and the cross-over with past life regression ( feel free to consider that bunkum if you so choose, or that it taps only into areas of the brain where forgotten info goes).

It also touches on reincarnation and 'why we're here', ie what is the purpose, if any, of our earthly (or only, if that's what you think it is) life/lives?

The gist of what I have read so far being that, assuming you can accept the premise of some kind of communication either from 'elsewhere' or deep in our sub-consciousness, we are here to learn the lessons which our souls need to learn to progress, and that if not learned in one life we come back to 'try again'. Typically, to learn compassion, love, patience, not to judge or be greedy or arrogant etc etc ( my paraphrasing of a big issue lol) .

Leaving aside any religious aspects, and whether you believe in something 'after' (or before) Why do you think YOU are here?

;-) This reminds me of a friend who after a few whiskies, tended to ask the impenetrable questions 'What are we doing here, where are we going" :-D I'm on coffee :-)

All thoughts welcome. :-)

I think that we're just 'life forms' and that we die and decay.

I don't believe in anything 'higher', although sometimes I wish that I did :-D

If souls come back to 'try again', why isn't the world getting more peaceful and less warlike (or perhaps it is...)

Sheila " why isn't the world getting more peaceful and less warlike" ...good question, it could be that the majority are just not learning or not fast enough anyway?

Or if you ( general 'you' ) think there is nothing after death then is being just another 'life form' worth us being 'nice' (ie to strangers as opposed to our own little group of family/friends) while we're here when it doesn't matter as such as the end result is the same?

..but the way 'we' (as in the population) treat strangers/others could be determined by the way we were brought up.
Moral and ethical behaviour doesn't rely on religion.

"Moral and ethical behaviour doesn't rely on religion." No it absolutely doesn't Maggie, that's why I said "leaving aside any religious aspects" because I know as many non- religious people who have all the qualities , as I do religious people who have none of them ( ie they 'believe' for the reward rather than the journey if you see what I mean.)

Yet there are people who haven't been brought up to be nice to strangers/others but who nevertheless are...they have bucked the upbringing to be or do 'better' than the people they might have been like?

So perhaps, if we are here for a reason, or to learn, those who can avoid nastiness are heading for a 'good' place? Whatever that may be.

Maybe there are so many wars, because, in the past, there were so many 'good' people who didn't need to come back, and we've entered a period where the toerags are in the majority!

I'm not a religious person, but it's not easy talking about this, without referring to one :-S

I'm very sketchy on physics (on many things lol you can tell!) , but if everything including us is 'energy' and does not disappear but remains in some (altered) form, then maybe there is a pool of energy, either good or evil that is 'accessible', to be drawn upon?

I'm also not well up on the "collective unconscious" ,,, the longer I live the more I realise how little I know lol....and possibly how little time there is left in which to learn it ;-)

Could this 'evil' power be the cause of Earthquakes, or is that down to Geology?


Is Geology a 'hidden force' that reacts to humankind?

Geology is just geology ( imho) the earthquakes, floods etc are natural phenomenon not linked in anyway to good or evil except perhaps in how we deal with how they affect people when they happen? I don't believe in diseases being some kind of punishment or a 'lesson' as such either.

I agree! :-D :-D

Religion fortifies many in the face of death.

A sort of palliative care, perhaps!

We are stardust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7RTp5l7YmY

or if you prefer a hard science approach try googling "entropy and the second law of thermodynamics" which anybody who has taken A level physics will have come across.

but it is the same thing in the end.

Lost what i was going to say Dermot lol.

Rollo, I will stick with the link and sing along. Entropy and the second law of thermodynamics looks to be something that will need a level of concentration that I don't have atm as I'm waiting for the phone to ring :-)

Summed up nicely by Flanders & Swann :-D

Heat is work and work's a curse
And all the heat in the universe
It's gonna cool down as it can't increase
Then there'll be no more work
And they'll be perfect peace
Really?
Yeah, that's entropy, man!
And all because of the second law of thermodynamics, which lays down

That you can't pass heat from the cooler to the hotter
Try it if you like but you far better notter
'Cause the cold in the cooler will get hotter as a ruler
'Cause the hotter body's heat will pass through the cooler
Oh, you can't pass heat from the cooler to the hotter
You can try it if you like but you far better notter
'Cause the cold in the cooler will get hotter as a ruler
That's the physical law

None of us would undertake any hard or persistent work if we could avoid it without physical, economic or social penalty.

Have to disagree with you on that one, Dermot.
Just ask a mother! :-D

You could argue that a 'bad' mother suffers social penalty, but the majority persevere through a mother's love, not the fear of social penalty.

Or ask a gardener :-) <3

nudging up for someone :-)

Too much discriminatory attitude towards women - more so reported in the media just lately, it seems.

A deeply worrying trend.

I used to wonder what we were here for when I was very young, however, I reached about 14 and decided it was a waste of time wondering about it and it's never troubled me since.