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Good evening All,

I wondered if anyone may kindly assist me please I haven't got very far but if anyone could check my findings to date would help me to stay on the correct path.

I recently went to my friend Sheila's funeral in Jan this year and her son Christopher said we know rather a lot about mums side of the family but not much about dads side as mum got older she had forgotten and so has asked if I would research the Haywood family from Nottingham. Any help would be very gratefully received.

Facts first :
Haydn Haywood B:1922 D:1983 Married 1944 to Sheila Mary Binch B:1921 D:25/12/2017

My research on the Haywood tree this is what I found so hoping it is correct:
Haydn's mother was Lois Jukes B:c1877 in March she Married John Haywood B: c1877 D 1941 ( this would make sense as on Haydn's marriage certificate in 1944 states father John Haywood as deceased. I have checked the births for Lois Jukes and I think she had four sons:
John 1911, Leslie 1913, Frank 1917 and Haydn 1922 The Haywood family were from Nottingham, Basford and possible something upon Trent?

As mentioned it has taken me a little while to get to this point but I would love your support if possible to ensure I'm on the right track as I do not want to go off on a tangent! I did look at old censors which was rather exciting but need to ensure this is right first.

Thank you for reading all my spill - Kind regards really hope to hear back from anyone,

Vicky.
:-D

Birth - shows his name spelt Hadyn on the record, just incase it makes difference anywhere along the line

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1922 (>99%)

Haywood Hadyn Jukes Basford 7b 322

Yes you are right with the spelling Hadyn and looks like I have the mother correct - great thank you.

The marriage was in Burton on Trent RD in 1903

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1903 (>99%)
Haywood John Burton 6b 515 <<<<<<<<<
Jukes Lois Burton 6b 515 <<<<<<<<<<
Russell Herbert Charles Burton 6b 515
Stokes Edith Burton 6b 515

Not seeing another marriage HAywood/Jukes, so here are the births from
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro gives mmn 1837-1917

then freebmd for any after that - they start mmn from Q3 1911. Not re posted the 1922 birth

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HAYWOOD, VICTOR WILLIAM JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 436

HAYWOOD, PHYLLIS JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 417

HAYWOOD, SAMUEL JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 411

HAYWOOD, FRANK JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 397

HAYWOOD, JOHN JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 397

HAYWOOD, LESLIE JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 733 Order

HAYWOOD, FRANK JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1917 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 588

John and Frank (1911) look to be twins. As another child was born 1917 and called Frank, presume the first one died - there are 2 possibilities bearing in mind where the family were in 1911/1913. I think the first one is more likely, though the second is just feasible
Results:
Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
HAYWOOD, FRANK 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 217
HAYWOOD, FRANK 0
GRO Reference: 1913 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 394

Then there is this too ??
HAYWOOD, JOHN 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in BURTON-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 449

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Linton Road Castle Gresley Near Burton on Trent, Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Lois Haywood Head Married Female 28 1883 Derbyshire Gresley -
Victor Haywood Son - Male 6 1905 Derbyshire Gresley -
Phillis Haywood Daughter - Female 4 1907 Derbyshire Gresley -
Samuel Haywood Son - Male 2 1909 Derbyshire Gresley -
Minnie Jukes Sister Single Female 23 1888 Derbyshire Gresley -

Lois says she has been married 8 years. 3 children born alive and still living

Burton on Trent RD spans the boundaries of Staffordshire and Derbyshire. It covers Gresley (Church Gresley) where all born

Probably Lois' birth

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
JUKES, LOIS SHAW Order
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 381

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Station Street, Church Gresley, Burton upon Trent, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
John Jukes Head Married Male 30 1861 Woodside, Worcestershire, England Coal Miner
Hannah Jukes Wife Married Female 40 1851 Woodside, Worcestershire, England -
William Jukes Son - Male 15 1876 Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England Coal Miner
Beatrice A Jukes Daughter - Female 10 1881 Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England Scholar
Lois Jukes Daughter - Female 8 1883 Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England Scholar
Hannah M Jukes Daughter - Female 5 1886 Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England Scholar
Susannah Jukes Daughter - Female 0 1891 Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England -
Minnie Jukes Daughter - Female 3 1888 Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England -


EDIT - having seen ages on 1881 census, have looked again at original. Believe John age says 38 so b c 1853
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
JUKES, BEATRICE ANN SHAW Order
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 413

The first Frank Haywood died soon after birth .............

Deaths Jun 1911 (>99%)
Haywood Frank 0 Burton 6b 217


Then they named another child after him, the one born in 1917


Possibly John also died??

Deaths Dec 1911 (>99%)
Haywood John 0 Burton 6b 449

Haywood Household (3 People)
20 Byron Street , Arnold U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Lois Haywood 09 Dec 1881 Unpaid Domestic Duties
John Haywood 03 Sep 1877 Lorry Driver Mate Coal Merchant

there is also 1 closed record - possibly Hadyn, although if he died in 1983 the record should have been opened

**his death in 1983 Chichester RD shows name spelt Haydn. DOB shown as 18.9.1922

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1930 (>99%)

Haywood Victor W Thorpe Basford 7b 486
THORPE Elsie Haywood Basford 7b 486

possible births to the couple show on the freebmd site
EDIT - the Melton Mowbray ones looking at where the family were in 1939

Deaths Dec 1980 (>99%)
Surname First name(s) DoB District Vol Page
HAYWOOD VICTOR WILLIAM 4AP1904 MACCLESFIELD 35 705

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk -

Probate - Victor William Haywood of 10 Hillside Ct Macclesfield died 1 Dec 1980 Administration Manchester 22 January

1939 Register
Haywood Household (4 People)
94 Scalford Road , Melton Mowbray U.D., Leicestershire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Victor W Haywood 04 Apr 1904 Office Manager Corn & Feedin Stuf
Elsie Haywood 16 Dec 1904 Unpaid Domestic Dutie
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Peter J Haywood 26 Jun 1938 Under School Age

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

Marriages Sep 1937 (>99%)
Haywood Phyllis Hinksman Nottingham 7b 1130
Hinksman William G Haywood Nottingham 7b 1130

Not seeing births to the marriage

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1939 -
Hinksman Household (2 People)
20 Prospect Road , Carlton U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Phyllis Hinksman 13 Jul 1906 Hosiery Overlocker
William G Hinksman 26 Aug 1895 Builders Joiner Fixed

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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription - not available on freebmd as only goes to c 1983 at latest

Print Add to treeFirst name(s) PHYLLIS
Last name HINKSMAN
Gender Female
Birth day 13
Birth month 7
Birth year 1906
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1986
District Nottingham
Register number 486
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 986

?
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1933 (>99%)
Haywood Samuel Knapp Basford 7b 733
Knapp Lily Haywood Basford 7b 733

Not seeing children to marriage

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??living with her Father
Kanapp Household (3 People) (Should read Knapp)
30 Brickyard , Hucknall U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Samuel Haywood 25 Jan 1909 Cooperation Grocer Shop Am
William Kanapp 02 Jul 1860 Coalmining Above Ground Belong Re?
Lily Haywood 18 Mar 1902 Unpaid Domestic Duties

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?? DOB 2 days out from 1939 register
Deaths Mar 1979 (>99%)
HAYWOOD SAMUEL 27JA1909 NOTTINGHAM 8 884

Got to leave it there for now, will look in later or tomorrow

OMG thank you so much for all this help which is amazing I shall take it to work with me to digest it all. Regarding Haydn his name is spelt differently in two places but is the same person. This is all so clever its mind blowing. Thank you once again Vicky. Look forward to tomorrows installments! :-D

May I ask, I have previously worked on my own family tree but can I keep my tree and start a Haywood tree separately? because I belong to Genes which I actually find easier to work with but have also joined another family history site so I can have separate trees.

Vicky ...... you cannot have more than 1 tree on GR, under the same ID

There is a free membership option ................. sign up for this, with a different email address, and then you can have another tree.

Use a free email supplier such as Gmail or Yahoo, and a different password.


You can take out as many free memberships as you like, as long as you have a different email address and password for each one ;-)

Think this might be Leslie. Only 2 born 1913 and the other was Q4

Alldread Household (8 People)
Manor Club Albert Road , West Bridgford U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Leslie Haywood 27 May 1913 Male Department Manager (Mis? & Not F?) Married 277 3
John K Alldread 03 Apr 1914 Male Secretary (Manor Club) Married 277 1
Joyce M (Molly Doreen) Alldread 07 Apr 1921 Female Housewife Married 277 2
Renee Ridgway (Haywood) 15 Dec 1915 Female Housewife Married 277 4
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Mary E Bayley (Kirkman) 09 Jan 1915 Female Main (Mason Club) Single 277 6
Joseph Alldread 14 Oct 1892 Male Turf Accountant Married 277 7
Florence Alldread 18 Sep 1886 Female Housewife Married 277 8

Other info - John was Full Time and Leslie was part time Auxilliary Fire Service

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2 births show to marriage - one probably the closed record on 1939 register

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Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1937 (>99%)
Alldread Renée Haywood Basford 7b 601
Haywood Leslie Alldread Basford 7b 601

The entry for Renee on the 1939 indicates she remarried - a marriage shows up 1945 in Basford RD which could be her. Not seeing a death for Leslie (even on cwgc site looking for War dead) - ? they divorced. A death shows for a Renee Ridgeway in 1999 Rushcliffe RD, DOB as per 1939 register

A probate record shows for that name - died 25th December. Registry is Manchester, but doesn't mean it's not the right record
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk
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https://www.deceasedonline.com Renee was Cremated 10 Jan 2000. A frew credits on Deceasedonline will give more details but very few as so recent. The cremation probably took place at Wilford Hill Crematorium, West Bradford, Nottingham

A possibility for Frank

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) FRANK
Last name HAYWOOD
Gender Male
Birth day 28
Birth month 6
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1986
District Basford
Register number 586
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 51

Not seeing him on the 1939 register - he could have already been in the Forces so wouldn't show.

There are 4 possible marriages in Notts 1940-1950 - find on freebmd site. Could have married anywhere or not at all.