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JOhn Lyons with parents James and Catherine in Horatio Street.

James, the father is a Dock Labourer in 1911 so if, as John got older, he needed more money to get married and keep a family, he may well have found working on the docks more lucrative. His father would have found him work there because they were a pretty tight bunch.

You have not said how old John was on his Death Certificate.

Have you looked in any of the directories at all (eg Gore's)?

Hi Paul, you say that you only know that your John Lyons was a Dockworker however the Death Certificate that you have states that that John Lyons was a Paperhanger Master, are you sure you have the right Death Certificate?

Paul, have you looked at the 1911 Census?

I have had a quick glance and there are several people named John Lyons so it would help to know his parents' names, wife's name, children's' names.

There is a John Lyons, 22, married, Paper Seller/news vendor living in one of the courts off Horatio Street (say it quickly).

The courts weren't the healthiest of places - even worse in the early-1800s.

The parents of that particular John are James and Catherine.

6 Howarth Street is still in existence. You can see it on Streetview.

Kath. x

There is a possible burial for John Lyons on 14 Feb 1915 at Ford Roman Catholic Cemetery in Liverpool it gives his address as

6 Howarth (possibly Haworth) Street

Age 38
Grave 1020

Could this be your man?

It could be a number of streets, Paul. Howarth, Horran etc.

Is there a district (eg Toxteth etc) or number on the DC - such as L6 or L2 ?

Where was he living in 1911?

A Master Paperhanger would be what we would call a decorator (hanging wallpaper) who probably employed someone.

Great Howard Street is still in existence in Liverpool but I can't find a Horrath Street on the map.

When was your great grandfather born? Have you found him in the census?

Kath. x

Hi,
I have the death certificate of my great-grandfather who died in 1915 of Phthisis Pneumonia and Cardiac failure, which indicates he died of TB. Not sure what his trade a Paperhangar master is , I only know he was a dockworker. It says he lived at Horrath street, possibly Howard(Great) street ?