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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2018 03:35

well, if this is accurate, it looks as if the marriage posted by Kath is not the correct one, unless Mary had been married before ....

SHEPHERD, JAMES ARMSTRONG mmn ARMSTRONG
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 204

SHEPHERD, EMMA mmn ARMSTRONG
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in ECCLESALL BURLOW Volume 09C Page 224

SHEPHERD, WILLIAM NOON mmn ARMSTRONG
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 242

SHEPHERD, FRED mmn ARMSTRONG
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 268

died soon after birth ......

SHEPHERD, FRED 0
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 155

???? John I on the 1871 should be John T ........

SHEPHERD, JOHN THOMAS mmn ARMSTRONG
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in WORTLEY AND PENISTONE Volume 09C Page 175


This looks more like the marriage ..............

Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%)
ARMSTRONG Mary Sheffield 9c 229
SHEPHERD Joseph Sheffield 9c 229

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2018 03:58

There are two Joseph Shepherds apparently born in Barrow-on-Soar Leicestershire at around the same time .......... one in 1830/31 and one in 1831/32


Search long enough and you will find :-D

Here is a transcript of Joseph and Mary's marriage, from FindMyPast ......


Yorkshire Marriages

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Shepherd
Age 28
Birth year 1830
Residence North Parade
Marriage year 1858
Marriage date 04 Jan 1858
Marriage place Sheffield, St Jude, Moorfields
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Armstrong
Spouse's age 29
Spouse's residence North Parade
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Shepherd
Spouse's father's first name(s) James
Spouse's father's last name Armstrong
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PR-141-2-1
Page 26
Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies
Record set Yorkshire Marriages


so Joseph's father's name was Thomas


and this must be Joseph with his family in 1841. Note that his siblings have some names that he later used for his own children

1841 Census

Name: Joseph Shepherd
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Barrow Upon Soar
Hundred: East Goscote
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Barrow upon Soar
Sub-registration district: Syston
Neighbors:
Piece: 592
Book: 8
Page Number: 1

Thomas Shepherd 35 Ag Lab
Mary Shepherd 40
Priscilla Shepherd 12
Joseph Shepherd 10
William Shepherd 9
Abraham Shepherd 7
Miram Shepherd 5
Sabina Shepherd 3
Isaac Shepherd 1
Jacob Shepherd 1 Mo

Note that ages of people over the age of 15 were almost always rounded DOWN to the nearest 5 on the 1841 Census, but only on that census.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2018 04:10

??????????????????????


Joseph called one of his children William NOON Shepherd

Could that have been Joseph's mother's maiden name????


from FMP ..........

Leicestershire Marriages

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Shepherd
Age -
Birth year -
Residence Loughborough
Marriage year 1826
Marriage date 01 May 1826
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Noon
Spouse's residence Loughborough
Denomination Anglican
Place Loughborough, All Saints
County Leicestershire
Country England
Event type Parish Registers
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference DE667/14
Record set Leicestershire Marriages


The marriage was too earely for father's names to be on the Parish Register, but there were 3 witnesses .............

Witnesses:- John Shepherd, Thomas (or Tomas) Hodges and John Twells (???spelling)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2018 04:13

Oh ........ the witness's name was SARAH Hodges!

I found this version on Freereg

https://www.freereg.org.uk


County Leicestershire
Place Loughborough
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 899
Marriage date 1 May 1826
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname SHEPHERD
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname NOON
Witness1 forename John
Witness1 surname SHEPHERD
Witness2 forename Sarah
Witness2 surname HODGES
Notes 3. John Twells
Transcribed by John Gumley

patchem

patchem Report 31 Aug 2018 06:42

Free searches can be accessed through IGI - have you registered to use it?

https://www.familysearch.org/

e.g a Maud Dawson in 1911.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKL-G9B

It also has lots of birth and death details and much of the information found by the helpers here.

Jayne

Jayne Report 31 Aug 2018 16:31

Omw. Everyone has been busy, thankyou. Just got in from work, going to make a brew and have a read at all this. I will get back to you all. Thankyou again x

Jayne

Jayne Report 1 Sep 2018 15:49

I have wrote all this down and will be sitting down to put it all together tomorrow. I would just like to say a big thankyou to everyone that helped and gave me reference sights. I would like to say an extra thankyou to you Sylvia you gave me a lot. Thankyou for the site mentions I am not on some of those. Is one of those the church of the latter day saints? I remember quiet a few years ago my mum used to use it but I can;t find it x

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Sep 2018 17:15

Jayne ............

Yes, FamilySearch is the Church of Latterday Saints site. link below.

The RECORDS section is great, lots of collections, but keep away from Collections which is user-submitted records and trees, and often very imaginative!

You now have to set up an account, but it is free and seems to be safe

https://www.familysearch.org/

or this one has the list of collections that they have .....

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list

Jayne

Jayne Report 2 Sep 2018 02:00

Thankyou syviaincanada x