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Poor thing.

He also has a FB page or something ......... on of those social media things

He probably never goes out. :-|

'Karl Lagerfelds cat' - I bet this cat is rarely grumpy after receiving his inheritance. ;-)

He may not be the instigator of the fights!

It just needs one ignoramus not to neuter a male, and the testoserone filled 'thing' will attack any other cat :-(

I deduced this was why Betty started wetting my bed, and refusing to come downstairs.
At the time, I found scratches and scabs on both her and George - and even though George can get a bit 'exciteable', he 'bops' Betty, but never hurts or marks her - he is only playing (though Betty loves to over-react)
Once I had a litter tray for Betty, she stopped peeing on my bed, and has started going out a bit now (after using her litter tray)

Having said that - next doors cat (which I believe has been neutered) insists on pooing on my grass - mainly because 'him' next door has removed all greenery , and has 2 dogs which poo on the concrete.
However - pooing ON the garden, and not burying it, is a sign of attempted dominance.
The cat next door also regularly attacks George, but is now absolutely terrified of me, as I once caught him in MY garden, fighting George. Rather than intervene, I stood very close and snarled, hissed, and carefully put water on the other cat.

This didn't phase George, who is used to me making strange noises, (I quite often open the door to let them out and snarl & hiss to scare other cats off), and George isn't phased by water (he loves going out in the rain), but petrified the other cat.
Next doors cat knows exactly where it stands with me, now. :-|
It just sees me and runs off :-D

Well Felliway has arrived and is plugged in

Laser pens too and he seems to like them

Got a pack of three that cast the shadow of a rat, fish. Cat paw

He likes the rat one and the fish one and did some hunting about on them

Only did a few mins as he was getting worked up

He has gone out now

So, in the light of everything above, perhaps a head X-Ray or CT scan (catscan as we always call them - no pun intended) might reveal something? I'd say explore every avenue but it seems as though you've just about done that Shirley. Good luck.

He may have been kicked at or had something thrown at him if hes wondered into someones garden?and any sudden move you make puts him on the defence.....also cats can go suddenly develop hearing problems,,,,so again will just lash out at movement.....

although hes been *done* it doesn't stop hormonal behaviour and he is only 5,,,,,,so he probally just has a frustrated wobble...…. ;-)

Vet visit is the way to go.

That sounds interesting rollo

Yes some rooms have been repainted and some new furniture bought but mostly bedroom

Nothing though in the last year .

Bee vet though when I told him of the problem just shrugged it off with Well he shouldn't be doing that !!

Cats protection did suggest changing vet !!


Never had his teeth cleaned but they are looked at by the vet . Don't go that often though as he very healthy normally

He does fight though as I find scratches on his head and few months ago has had an abscess on his jaw from a bite that need antibiotics

No lilies in the garden and no grass either
But he is a roamer so who knows what he gets up to !

This kind of problem had sometimes been associated with the cat being at odds with changes in its environment. Have you redecorated / brought in new furniture? Any new garden plantings? Does he eat any plant ? I assume you are know that lilies are a nono.

Are his teeth good? Cats need to have their teeth cleaned regularly. A bad tooth has much the same effect on a cat's mood as with a human.
The hint to look for ticks is sound. They can be difficult to locate.
Another physical problem that can make a cat irritable is polyps in the ears / medullla. A vet can check for this with an endoscope.

Another problem I have seen (and suffered from ) is a cat with a hairline fracture. Due to the lifestyle of cats they tend not to self heal but can cause intense sudden pain and a distraught cat. Onoy an x-ray will tell you for sure.

https://www.msdvetmanual.com/cat-owners/behavior-of-cats/treatment-of-behavior-problems-in-cats

Joy Louise

No the funny thing is this aggression wasn't there for over two years
He would do a play attack and I would be what you doing you pickle!!

There was never any aggression from him or from me when he did the play

The aggression has started in tha last year . Was one off and then nothing but it's built up to at least twice a week

Most of the time he is laid back and friendly ,not a lap cat but will when the mood takes him get on my lap and circle and settle down for a snooze together with purrs

He stays downstairs at night because he is a scratcher but if he should come in the bedroom he will lay on my chest and push his head under my hand for strokes ,but then a few strokes in he will nip my arm .
Not a full blown bite but one like the mummy cat does with the kittens to tell em enough !!

It's the onset of the attacks that is a puzzle cos nothing has changed in the house that could be the cause

Rollo
The only info cats protection had on him was that he had been had from a kitten to two years old and was being rehomed becaued the owners were being evicted and couldn't take him with them

Believe me he hasn't had any trauma living with us and I certaining don't do battle for control . He frightens me more than anything when he goes into attack mode

Shirley, we have never had a cat because two of us are allergic to them, one of my kids particularly so. This is not to say we have never had other animals.

From what I've read it looks as though you have struggled since 2015 - so you have given it a good go. Four years of your cat's bad behaviour, exacerbated now by your impaired mobility seems to me that you have gone above and beyond.

I understand your feelings toward the cat because of your late husband but your own well-being must take precedence and, if I were you, I'd take up that RSPCA offer of re-homing the cat. Would your husband have given you that same advice if he knew that you were being clawed regularly? Only you can know that, but ask yourself what advice you would have given him if the situation was reversed.

Sorry if this is not what you want to hear but I would be asking myself whether, after four years of trying, I would still be accepting such behaviour from any other grown animal.

(Sorry, I have removed a few words from my last para because it is not my intention to upset anyone. Rather, I am trying to imagine four years of patience exercised by Shirley to no avail.

Shirley, that phrase, ' You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din' springs to mind.)

The cat is behaving like this because of some past trauma. Getting into any sort of battle for control will just make matters worse or even insoluble. The key is to alleviate the trauma and build trust. It will take time and patience. If you can get any history that will help.

Vets are not for the most part v good at dealing with animal behaviour problems from cats and dogs to racehorses.

There are in most areas animal behaviour experts who can do wonders. Your local cat rescue groups will be aware of your local people. Fees are often minimal or even nil.

Good luck

That's the programme I was thinking of, My cat from hell, I am watching it now actually.

Hope you can find a solution, maybe someone can give you a lift to a better vet who can help you, if the parking is difficult.

Take care

Lizxx

Sorry to hear about your daughter Sue, what an awful experience, thankfully there were people around to help get rid of the cat.

I had no idea how bad the RSPCA are, I really thought they may of offered you some advice Shirley.

It sounds like you're trying everything you can now. I wish you luck and hope the Felliway works this time around. Good idea to have him checked out just incase it is something to do with his health, if it is I hope it's nothing to bad and he gets the help he may need. Good luck, I'm thinking of you.

Keep those scratch marks clean to avoid infection Shirley

I would keep a newspaper handy and if he attacks anytime give him a quick whack with it .


He will soon get who is the boss and keep doing it.

May sound cruel but it isn't.

The RSPCA are useless unless their getting money in they won't do anything to help.

Example for you all.

My daughter had 4 cats and she was pregnant at the time.
She thought the cat that had come in was one of hers .so went to stroke it but it
attacked her and clawed her all down her arm.

She let out such a scream,I went running into her kitchen and it wasn't her cat but a strange cat.

I tried to shoo it out with towels.newspapers and chairs.anything to get it out.She
rang the RSPCA AND TOLD THEM WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND THEY SAID


WE WON'T COME OUT UNLESS WE GET A £100 TO GET RID OF IT.

I rang the doctors for an appointment for her as the cat had rally gone to town on her arm.

In the end her next doos neighbour her the commotion and came round and as soon as they saw her arm .

The HUBBY went and got his keep net from fishing and he had a problem getting it out but after 3/4 hour he eventually cornered it and got it in the net.AND SCREWED THE NET AROUND AND TUCK IT INTO THE WOODS AND THE END OF THEIR STREET.

She needed to go to the hospital once the doctor had seen her arm as she needed stitches and antibiotics for a week or so and was kept in as she was pregnant at the time.


So RSPCA don't give a monkeys how badly you need them.

I have rung the rspca and they were very listening but couldn't advise
Said the vet should take it more seriously

They also suggested contacting cats protection which i have just done

Cats protection said as theres been no change in the home then he should get checked out by the vet to see if there's some underlying health problem. Could also be phsycological which would be difficult to treat
If all else fails and he gets worse and I can't cope with him they will rehome him
They have places like stables etc where his aggressiveness wouldn't be a danger

They said try the felliway again so I have just ordered some .

Watch this space !!

Shirley as said previous you can buy a press gadget that when pressed sounds like an aerosol, psssssst ,,cats don't like the sound ,its not harmful in any way,,,,,,just enough to distract him from what hes doing. then have a toy handy to throw so he chases after it,,,,,,,,,it will become a bit of a game aswell ,...the sooner the better,

hes just finding his feet as a young man and wants to be bossy..he has no concept of what hes doing hurt wise..just needs a bit of bossing about.


I think the vets sell them but know good pet shop does like Pets4 U...